• Hyperreality@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    Chinese EVs are being sold at a loss of up to 35k per car:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/05/business/nio-china-electric-vehicles.html

    The Chinese government is subsidising their car industry, so they can engage in dumping, and decimate our car industries. When our domestic car industries are dead, they’ll raise prices. It’s like Amazon or any other scummy megacorp that kills local businesses.

    This being said, it’s hard to feel sorry for companies who also receive plenty of government subsidies and tax breaks, broke the law on emissions testing and likely killed a lot of people because of it, and refused to innovate or lower prices out of sheer greed.

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      9 months ago

      I truly don’t care if China destroy the car industry, it’s fucking ridiculous how expensive some basic shit is. In my opinion if you introduce a feature into your cars, you have ten years before it should become standard.

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      9 months ago

      China is using subsidies to accelerate the green transition, exactly like the US is doing with the “Inflation Reduction Act” and other initiatives.

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      9 months ago

      It’s not on, it really isn’t, the Chinese shouldn’t be allowed to engage in the free market. They’re supposed to be the enemy.

      They should be sanctioned so that Western car makers can continue to put out vehicles for ludicrous prices, the way God intends.

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          9 months ago

          I don’t know, I feel like it works on both levels really. There are actual people that think like that and it’s insane. The US trade war doesn’t really help, It paints China as the bad guy even though they’re only doing the same thing as every other country in the world.

          By all means demand China improves in areas which makes sense such as blatant copyright violation and human rights abuses but not this. Making cheap cars is hardly nefarious.

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            9 months ago

            It depends on how it’s done. If the Chinese government is directly subsidizing the cheap cars then it’s a problem.

            Kind of like the US subsidizing farmers and then dumping the cheap corn on other countries such that their local farmers go out of business.

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              9 months ago

              That’s capitalism. You don’t get to complain because someone else gets a better deal.

              China will always be able to produce cheaper products because the cost of living is lower there. But that is hardly a major revelation.

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                9 months ago

                You forgot the uyghurs and slave labour…
                Convenient.

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                  9 months ago

                  Yes I did, I mentioned human rights abusers, it’s right there in the comment that I made, I can still see it.

                  I find it’s always a good idea to actually read the comments before getting angry about them.