- cross-posted to:
- degrowth@slrpnk.net
- cross-posted to:
- degrowth@slrpnk.net
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We really should put a limit on car sizes.
Make them have a commercial license and pay for commercial transporting or something.
In the US at least, you need a CDL if you drive a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight greater than 10,000 lbs (4536 kg). The 2022 GMC Hummer EV weighs a whopping 9,063 lbs (4111 kg) so that’s probably the largest vehicle a regular person would be able to buy.
That only matters if you’re “for hire”. I’m not aware of a single state or province where you can’t drive a 45 foot long tour bus RV towing a double car trailer on a regular license. You can legally b-train trailers in lots of places. Giant truck + huge trailer + cargo trailer full of quads and side by sides is totally kosher.
Edit: I can go buy a Ford F750 and drive it like a pickup truck if I want. The Hummer is not nearly the biggest vehicle a normal person can buy and drive
It is 3500kg in Germany for your regular driver’s license (unless you got yours in the distant past) so that is probably one market that limits it a bit more here in the EU.
I drove a gigantic uhaul once that I was amazed I could with a normal licence.
I’m 99% sure it’s 26,000lbs at least for a straight truck non combination.
Source: I used to be a CDL A holder
Commercial motor vehicle: means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—
(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or
(2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or
(3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or
(4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.
Those tires must be expensive.
Tax by weight, easy peasy
There is one, but it’s outrageous. RVs like to push that limit.
Or - hear me out - have pollution regulations that become more and more lax the bigger the vehicle is.
Didn’t the people of Paris vote in favour for charging triple car parking chargers for SUV’s? I’d like to see this more.
SUV sales have been crazy the last few years in the UK (I assume the rest of the EU too given every manufacturer starting making many different models of SUV’s). They stopped making people carriers in favour for SUV’s :(
They did, but sadly only for non-residents.
That’s a shame. Still, it’s a start.
Does anyone else find it crazy how absolutely lazy people got? When i go shopping in a lidl, it has pretty good parking, the furthest spot is maybe 50m away. But there are always a few lazy asses who park right next to the entrance where there is no parking, the handicapped spot or the ev charging spot (without being disabled or owning a ev. Even worse in an underground parking where i sometimes go. These fuckers rather wait and block the lane to park as close as possible, while half the parking on the other side is empty, and the spot is quite literally 3 car lengths away, you don’t have to wait to get in and you are closer to the exit where you also don’t have to wait. Biggest pea brains park there i swear.
I think people always were this lazy, but they were more considered to others.
By historical examples of monarchs/royalty being literally carried by other people I have doubts.
Are you arguing that the monarchs were lazier?
I’m arguing people have always been this lazy and inconsiderate.
So far, your point was only about monarchs being that.
Sorry, I didn’t realize monarchs were a different species.
Totally. They fly from Mexico to north-east in several generations, then return back in a single year.
But there are always a few lazy asses who park right next to the entrance where there is no parking,
YES. In the US I’ve noticed tons and tons of people parking in the Fire Lane (in front of the entrances of stores in strip mall). It used to just be lazy asshats who left their partner in the car so they could move it if a cop came. But now every store has unattended cars in front. It makes driving through the shopping area hazardous as now the extra-wide 2-lane roadway is blocked by a car. It also makes it a lot harder to spot pedestrians since they have to weave through illegally parked cars and it appears as if the pedestrians are coming out of nowhere from behind a car.
I wish the stores would call tow companies and make all these people think twice about how lazy they are to not walk another 20 ft.
There is also a big hardware store with 100+ parking spots and like 10 for for cars with trailers. The trailer spots are obviously closest to the store, and are always, ALWAYS occupied by anything but trailers or busses. Always some lazy fucks. I really wish they would enforce that shit. On the other hand i understand that they don’t want to vother and talk to these people.
the extreme laziness deteriorates their bodies over time. legs so fat it hurts to walk. ofc they park close.
The funniest are the multi layer parking structures. I was parking on downtown under a large mall and people were blocking the way to wait for a “close parking spot” on B1. Head down to B3 and it’s completely empty with spots right next to an elevator.
Like, that’s not even lazy at that point, it’s just dumb.
12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! Canyonero! Canyonero!
I long so badly for a time where I can walk or train anywhere I need to go, and be rid of these monstrosities.
Don’t give them ideas!
That squirrel’s nicked someone’s help sign!
Reminds me of this too -
Makes me think of those old cartoons where the filthy rich always had looooooooooooooong limousines
SUVs are a new plague :(
That’s a huge squirrel. Of course I’ll support degrowth wtf.
The 6000 SUX. Because bigger is better.
I heard the next gen EV Wagoneer is gonna be over 10,000 lbs, the battery alone is almost 3,000.
Idk, it’ll be close, but the ice version is only 6000lbs.
Oh good, for a second I thought I was going to hear more about degrowing the economy to save the environment or whatnot. Yes, this degrowth I can get behind.
The only huge vehicles I’m really seeing now are all trucks, not SUVs.
I see tons of big SUVs but I haven’t noticed them getting that much bigger. Maybe they are and it’s a trick of perspective. But trucks appear like they are getting MUCH bigger. It’s obscene and disgusting. Compact cars can reasonably tow 1,200lb loads. These gigantofucking trucks are not needed. People aren’t pulling and storing tens of thousands of lbs of load every day. And if they are they need to register their damn business.
Every car segment has grown. Each size tier grew to the size of the next tier. Small cars are pretty much extinct and the cars that are marketed as small are the size of what used to be a medium car.
Compact cars can reasonably tow 1,200lb loads.
Assuming your trailer has brakes some can easily do double that.
Yep. Toyota Corollas since 2002 have braked towing capacity of 1300kg. What do you fit in a normal trailer that’s heavier than that anyway? Unless you’re an incompetent landscaper that’s constantly hauling gravel and dirt to and from job sites I can’t think of why 1300kg wouldn’t be sufficient.
I guess most people have a second job as a landscaper, floor tiler, stone mason or plumber. /s
People aren’t pulling and storing tens of thousands of lbs of load every day.
Hey, speak for yourself ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Where i live suv’s absolutely exploded. We only have really small parking spots or tight underground parking, seeing all these vig ass cars down there is pretty funny.