The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine's Ministry of Defense claims that pro-Ukrainian hacktivists breached the Russian Center for Space Hydrometeorology, aka "planeta" (планета), and wiped 2 petabytes of data.

The Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense claims that pro-Ukrainian hacktivists breached the Russian Center for Space Hydrometeorology, aka “planeta” (планета), and wiped 2 petabytes of data.

  • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
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    10 months ago

    One side of me wants to cheer the Ukrainians, but the other laments that they… “hurt science”. I wish they could have stolen the data before they wiped it so it wasn’t lost, but that’s a lot of data to swipe.

    I get it, it’s just I’m sad all of that knowledge was lost. Space Hydrometeorology isn’t really relevant to war-waging. It wasn’t a strategic target.

    I will drink two toasts tonight: one for Ukraine’s victory, and one to lament lost knowledge.

    • Teanut@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Weather forecasting is actually really important for military operations. Consider weather advisories for aircraft, for example. Or planning an offensive on a clear day.

      That said I don’t know if this place was doing climate science or weather forecasting (or both).

    • GONADS125@feddit.deEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I agree with you completely. Any time knowledge like this is destroyed, it illicits the same feeling for me as thinking about the destruction of the Library of Alexandria.

      Fuck russia, but also fuck destroying knowledge in the name of war…

    • Sprokes@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I am sure they have offline backups. Also sometimes most of the data is garbage in the sense we collect anything in case we need it.

    • partial_accumen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I wish they could have stolen the data before they wiped it so it wasn’t lost, but that’s a lot of data to swipe.

      Ukrainian hackers could cryptolocker it and exchange the keys for Ukrainian POWs.

      • h4lf8yte@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I am sure somebody would get suspicious if the servers are on 100% CPU + IO to encrypt 2 petabytes especially if you encrypt the data in place.

  • derpgon@programming.devEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I see all the comments saying Ukraine targeted non-military entity. But IMO, Russia can get fucked. I am not sure if they shared the data with anyone, or kept it to themselves, but no loss.

    • hark@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Following that logic, civilians should be fair game because “Russia can get fucked”.

    • maness300@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I disagree wholeheartedly with the idea of collective punishment.

      It’s very easy to turn collective punishment into discrimination and genocide. This solves nothing and only creates more problems.

      • Chocrates@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I agree but this seems to be an attack on a military contractor, similar to if Russia attacked Lockheed martin. Sure Lockheed does civilian stuff but they actively help the military. I am not sure what the UN says about it, and it certainly isn’t the same as Israel collectively punishing Gaza.

        I suppose everything has nuance

  • Paragone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    That was a non-military target.

    That also harmed science.

    That kind of targetting is what I expect of Russia, but if Ukranians are doing it to, then it means they’re losing their ability to discern who the proper targets are, vs who the not proper targets are, and are assaulting more indiscriminately.

    Not wise, Ukraina, sorry.

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