Reddit working overtime to keep me from ever returning
Just got back a message from the mods who told me to grow up and called me a ‘hero’. They also muted me for 28 days so I can’t message them any more. My reply to their ban was this “Banned for deleting my own comment in a 10 year old thread? Funny.”
And just so anyone can see, this is the only message I sent them regarding the ban.
You can consider your Reddit account permabanned too. Powermods will typically report any “backtalk” to the Reddit admins which basically will get you permabanned no matter your infraction history.l
That’s fine with me I was deleting it on the 30th anyhow. Plus this should highlight the pathetic atmosphere over there for anyone who is on the fence about leaving.
Technically it’s the “edit” they ban for, not the “delete”.
The Reddit history deletion tools like to edit every comment before deleting them.
This was (is?) a privacy “best practice” based on the understanding that Reddit, Inc. can recover the text of deleted comments, but not the edit history. Just what the comment said at the time of deletion.
Quoting reddit Admin u/alienth:
We will still have access to a deleted comment. So, yes, if you’d like to ensure that something is completely removed, editing would accomplish that.
Edit: to clarify, the delete button does delete the content from public view on the site. The differentiator with the edit button is that we simply don’t store old edits. People can choose to take advantage of this by editing away the text.
In the case of deleting your comments to protest Reddit’s decision, I’m not sure editing is really helpful. It’s technically possible but very unlikely IMO that they would do something like a mass undelete just to keep your content on their site.
Yea, nothing prevents them from fetching the pre-edited content from their daily or weekly database backups. Media such as images and video might be harder to restore, but “soft” deletes on that type of storage are common, and editing a comment to remove an embed won’t delete the embed source.
Yes, it’s obviously technically possible to recover from a backup whether or not you edit. If anything, alienth was probably sharing that they can see deleted comments with no extra work required at all.
My point was that “editing before deleting” is done by these shredding tools because of the comment I quoted. It does nothing to prevent third parties from keeping their own copy, and is at worst an inconvenience to Reddit, Inc.
Therefore I’m not sure there’s any real value to it for this kind of use.
I’m pretty sure that’s not an option once they receive a GDPR Data removal request.
Yeah it would probably be illegal to use the data for anything in the event of a GDPR removal.
They do technically still have it in their backups, most likely. It should be covered in Reddit’s ToS.
According to France’s GDPR supervisory authority, CNIL, organisations don’t have to delete backups when complying with the right to erasure.
Nonetheless, they must clearly explain to the data subject that backups will be kept for a specified length of time (outlined in your retention policy).
If you decide to go down this route, you should bear in mind that other supervisory authorities might be stricter and that you must be able to demonstrate that it’s impractical to delete backup data.
https://www.itgovernance.eu/blog/en/the-gdpr-how-the-right-to-be-forgotten-affects-backups-2
A GDPR removal request would be quite useful for this.
GDPR is more or less about Personal data comments ( without personal Data ) dont fall under this.
You can still edit and delete comments even if your banned in that Sub , use a tool like https://redact.dev/ to speed it up ( its free )
With the threat of removing mods for participating in the blackout, I wonder if some of them are deliberately just being extra ban-happy as an alternative.
Sub status don’t mean squat if the users don’t want to post.
Schrodinger’s mod is simultaneously lame and based until you open the box
Pretty much! I like to give the benefit of the doubt when the potential to exists - makes the world feel a lot less shitty.
I thought I replied already to this so this might be a double… I think they are just a bootlicker who needs to go outside more often. Based on the reply I got from them I don’t think they give a shit about their users just their power.
That’s silly, any Reddit moderators that actually care about deleted/edited comments can easily configure automoderator to remove the comment. There’s no need to go on a frenzy to ban every single person editing/removing old comments.
And trust me there are a lot of people editing/deleting comments right now.
And trust me there are a lot of people editing/deleting comments right now.
I did even edit and remove old comments via Redact with keywords and more before that fiasco they all just got now super sensitive because their power tripping janitor position is in danger.
