A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • Concetta@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    951·
    2 years ago

    This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I’m sure everything will go fantastic.

  • Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    43·
    2 years ago

    Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

    • Contend6248@feddit.deEnglish
      181·
      2 years ago

      I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

      Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

      • Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

        Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

      • valveman@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Well, they could just say: “We made a script to track every mod who closed their sub, revogate its mod permissions and notify all other mods in the sub with an automatic message”, which basically frees them from any charges regarding community content.

        They could, however, be sued for not actively removing illegal content, such as pirated things and MAP related things (e.g. r/jailbait)

    • WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Honestly it would probably be easy to force the sub to go dark again via ban by posting direct piracy links.

    • Litanys@lem.cochrun.xyzEnglish
      20·
      2 years ago

      This needs so much more noise! If only some of us were part of major news channels, more shareholders need to know now that reddit is in IPO process. It’ll hurt bad.

  • rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    301·
    2 years ago

    This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won’t die month later.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
          41·
          2 years ago

          This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online. The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever

            • code_is_speech@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
              31·
              2 years ago

              You’ve sold me on nostr as a protocol, and the importance of nomadic identities more generally. Thing is, I don’t and have never used twitter, or any simililar platform, since I’m not really interested in that model of content consumption. (User/follower based)

              I’m much more interested in group/community based models, like lemmy/reddit, and conceptually even futaba/chan style imageboards where users can create their own boards (though I have yet to see one that isn’t a cesspit).

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
              21·
              2 years ago

              I checked nosr. It’s very misguided. It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  relays can choose to block content.

                  This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.

  • d_bradr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    2 years ago

    We’ll build a better ship with a sturdier ram, 32 pounder cannons and free wenches and rum! Dbzer0 for captain, 2023

    • Charcoal8645@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 years ago

      You and me both. Im still heaving a little trouble figuring out all the fediverse, but it will definitely be better than reddit

      • Robert Kingett backup@tweesecake.social
        5·
        2 years ago

        @Charcoal8645 @edgerunnergit Basically, the Fediverse is a universe of tech designed to talk and interact with each other. For example, I can interact with you even though I don’t have a Lemmy account, and it works the other way too. ActivityPub connects all of us. I’m also sure interopability will strengthen as these services grow. It isn’t just Mastodon focus migrations happening and this is really great!

    • Swallowtail@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, even if they backtrack on all of this shit, I am done with them. This episode as a whole is a great illustration of the danger of allowing a private business to run one of the biggest spaces for community and discourse in the world.

      • AlexTheLost@kbin.social
        3·
        2 years ago

        Same here, no matter what they do now they’ve made it extremely clear what they think about their users, even if something happened tomorrow and the fediverse somehow went down (which would be a feat unto itself) I’m never touching reddit again

  • dogmuffins@lemmy.mlEnglish
    19·
    2 years ago

    This is happening all over reddit.

    Mods are posting all over the place saying “I have to bend over for the admins because if I don’t they’ll find someone else who will”.

    You do you but honestly I find this a bit weird. As an unpaid volunteer you don’t have to do anything. Just resign. Reddit’s not about to die but it’s best days are in the past. I wouldn’t want to be a part of the future of reddit.

  • sol87@lemmy.worldEnglish
    171·
    2 years ago

    "In analyzing the availability of the immunity offered by Section 230, courts generally apply a three-prong test. A defendant must satisfy each of the three prongs to gain the benefit of the immunity:

    1. The defendant must be a “provider or user” of an “interactive computer service”.
    2. The cause of action asserted by the plaintiff must treat the defendant as the “publisher or speaker” of the harmful information at issue.

    3. The information must be “provided by another information content provider”, i.e., the defendant must not be the “information content provider” of the harmful information at issue."

    If Reddit the company is now picking and choosing who approves or blocks harmful information, are they an information content provider now? Are they liable if their chosen mods allow harmful content?

  • arkcom@kbin.social
    14·
    2 years ago

    Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn’t go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they’re even dumber than I thought.

      • VeryAmaze@vlemmy.net
        4·
        2 years ago

        An interesting point about this, is that previously when people would try to gain control over subs with inactive mods the admins would drag their feet as much as possible. (I’m part of a sub where it took almost a year via several requests for the group of new mods to gain ownership of the sub).
        But now some fee-fees got hurt and admins go nuclear and removes mods at lightspeed…

  • jugalator@lemmy.worldEnglish
    151·
    2 years ago

    LMAO and these guys wanting to reopen /r/piracy are awaiting IPO. Any investor not seeing the issues at hand here deserve all the misfortune they’ll get.

  • matbag08@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    12·
    2 years ago

    That’s just crazy. I still don’t fully know what’s going on with reddit but from what I’ve heard it’s just bs but I’m here for support. Happy sailing everyone!

    • CatherineHuffman@burggit.moeEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      still don’t fully know what’s going on with reddit

      Reddit wants to kill 3rd party apps so people have to user their terrible ad-infested privacy-invading first party app so they can harvest and sell your data.

      CEO says devs are “choosing” not to work with them while sending them bills in the tens of millions of dollars.