Ok OP, I’ve been seeing your posts here and they almost always seem to have an anti-west take on things. I try to read news from both sides of the aisle and make my own conclusions, so I’m genuinely curious: why do you think Ukraine should roll over and hand over their lands to Russia, or alternately, why is Russia justified in this war (that apparently they did provoke)?
Because it’s obvious to anybody with a functioning brain that Ukraine will lose this war, and the only thing that’s being accomplished in the process is that hundreds of thousands people die, and millions more have their lives ruined. Prolonging the conflict will not change the outcome.
The whole angle to talk about justifying the war is just empty moralizing. The reality of geopolitics is that might makes right. This is what US led “rules based” order has established since the fall of USSR. NATO has invaded and destroyed numerous countries, and they were able to do that because nobody could stand up to them. There were no consequences for any western leaders, and no justifications are necessary. Now Russia is doing the same, the only reason westerners seem to be upset about it is because it’s somebody else doing the same things the west has been doing.
NATO has invaded and destroyed numerous countries
No. Some countries, also part of NATO, invaded other countries.
Don’t put the blame on NATO when some countries disregard international laws.
And no, Ukraine won’t loose the war. At minimum, it will be a draw.
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so brave!
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Even the ones who were press ganged off the streets and to the front lines?
Funny you should mention fascists…
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
Every Ukrainian that fought, bled, and died is a victim of a western backed regime that allowed its country to be used in a proxy war with Russia. Every westerner that keeps cheering this on is a deplorable psychopath. The fact that you think this is about justifications shows that you’re nothing more than a useful idiot facilitating atrocities.
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There’s one person in particular that could make it end today. The same person who started this war. Vladimir Putin.
It’s weird that people are still regurgitating this talking point. Why would Russia end the war now that they’re clearly winning it?
Why should the onus of peace be placed on a country that did nothing to provoke Russia? Ukraine cannot be faulted for defending its borders and refusing to allow a second Crimea.
Ukraine did plenty to provoke Russia with western encouragement, and lots of prominent people in the west have warned that this would lead to a war. Ukraine has been in a civil war since the legitimate government was overthrown in a violent coup back in 2014.
Better yet, I hope there is mass insurrection in the Russian army and they just refuse to engage. But then we’d probably see a lot of people’s family members strangely falling off balconies. Weird how that works.
Far more likely that this will happen in the Ukrainian army that’s now largely composed from people the regime kidnaps off the street and who have no interest in fighting. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html
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Ah yes, there it is again. That old nugget of wisdom. Might makes right.
No amount of moralizing is going to change reality. The rest of the world had to deal with might makes right from the west since the end of USSR. Yet, all of a sudden morally bankrupt western public trying to get on a high horse when somebody else does the same thing the west has been doing for many decades. Nobody is impressed by that.
The west is conducting a literal genocide while we speak, yet here you are talking about morals. 🤡
So which is it? Ukraine provoked Russia or Russia is liberating Nazi led Ukraine? Strange how the rationale keeps shifting.
Not sure how these things are mutually exclusive in your mind, but it’s pretty clear that rational thinking isn’t your forte.
Whatever. It’s clear you’re a Russian shill. Nice try but you aren’t fooling anyone here. You have no moral leg to stand on.
That’s right, everyone who disagrees with your is a Russian shill. You are very intelligent.
