Or they’ll blame you for roping them into this exploitative shitshow with a side of climate apocalypse, and they’ll be correct.

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    I intend on adopting (in a distant future if I’m ever financially and psychologically stable). Lots of kids who have already been born could use a loving family.

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    its like i found my people. while also against pro-creating, i’m pro-abortion too. if we could cause extinction, we could be heroes.

    God, would then be forced to create a world worth living in. unless we stop him from doing this to us, we will be forced to return.

    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again…

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    Not having kids cuz I’m not especially fond of the idea of throwing the poor little shits into the dumpsterfire we’ve made our world. That and I don’t want to pitch my offspring as ammo into a breeding war against the Nazis/cultists/idiots. They can have it.

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      I don’t trust humanity with my offspring. Especially not the people who demand more people in this world. They have to be sadists.

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    I say stop having kids to wholly avert the undeserved and nonconsensual suffering that is inherent to a sentient life and suffering across sentient lives should be minimized

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        There was a christian sect that managed to be so sucessful at this, it went extinct.

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            You mind expanding a bit more on that? Not trying to take a jab at you. I really want to understand.

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              Just a joke about practicing what you preach, I suppose.

              I think we all write our own stories, for ourselves and humanity at large. If we’re able to turn this ship around, it won’t be because of the attitudes in this thread. It will be in spite of them.

              Kids are great. Life is challenging but worth living and worth fighting for.

              Positive perspective is valuable, and cynicism is just lazy counterproductive nonsense without it.

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    What if the reason I got sterilized is that I don’t want to deal with raising them, knowing full well the burden would fall to me and I can’t even manage to keep myself fed most of the time (effort, not availability) and it just works in everyone’s favor?

    I can feed my cats twice a day and clean their boxes once, and they manage themselves otherwise if that’s all I have the energy for. That’s called neglect with children.

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      It’s part of the “no sex, no marriage, no kids” platform that focuses on bodily and personal autonomy for women by withholding sex from men and ensuring they’ll never be tied down in any form.

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        women and men both surprised that neither needs the other all that much, but somehow, both are equally mad about it

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              Korea and Asia in large is not that much of an example for womens rights, on any front.

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                  Equality between genders should never be something arguable. Movements that claim for it should and must beuphold and I sincerely hope it fosters true and meaningful change. Longlasting and profound.

                  I also hope that in this well intended objective, women that, although supporting the cause, wanting to nonetheless have a family are not labelled as traitors to the cause.

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    The likes of musk are breeding like crazy though, arguing against a “population collapse”. But idk if the rest of the little musks would be willing to fill in the white collar jobs that made daddy rich in the first place.

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    I hate this so much as a leftist talking point. If the working class has no more kids all that happens is that we slowly phase out the peasants for the inevitable shift to fully automated labor, without even attempting revolution.

    Just total submission to our neofeudal masters, allowing them to effectively kill us when we are no longer needed. Like cattle.

    Have kids, if only so you have proper motivation to fight for a better tomorrow instead of this defeatist crap

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      If you need your own offspring to have motivation to fix things you are definitely in it for bad reasons. I mean if you want to raise the next generation of human cattle, the machine always needs more.

      Automation would be great, actually, if we shifted society to one where your ability to survive wasn’t tied to your ability to generate profit for the wealthy, and made the whole of society based on renewable resources.

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    Oh yeah, the world will be so much better off when only the stupidest people are having kids.

    Although if you take your advice from a meme, I suppose nothing of value would be lost.

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        Sure, but chances are low that uneducated people are going to great lengths to make sure their children are well educated.

        One of the most horrifying things I’ve encountered in my career as a teacher was a father who insisted that his incredibly bright high school senior not accept a college scholarship because, and I quote: “I didn’t go to college, and you’re not better than me.”

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          It’s usually the opposite, as long as the uneducated parent isn’t financially successful. If they are then your anecdote does tend to happen, and is generally a good thing in the US and other despotic hell holes as making money is far more important than education.

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        That’s the problem isn’t it? You parasites who think they owe the world nothing and can just take whenever they want without giving back.

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          It seems like you’re saying that the only way to give back to society is by having children. So people who don’t want kids or who can’t have kids are parasites?

          Sounds like a white supremacist talking point to me.