I guess their username speaks for itself XD

Ar eyou saying Proton’s CEO is a Nazi? Far as I can tell he isn’t

Edit: your message is confusing which is why I ask

I understand the concern but it’s not like the CEO is sieg heiling… He is stating how things used to be and his hope that Trump will continue that trend. He posted 4th of December which was far before Trump got all his big tech chronies to sit Infront of US allies at his inauguration

Tbh I think proton is solid. What the CEO said is just stating a fact of the situation 10 years ago and linking it to now. I don’t believe that’s right but he posted the message 4th of December which (if I’m not mistaken) was before it was clear all the tech CEOs were sucking his dick like we saw around his in inauguration.

I’d still recommend it, the other stuff the CEO says on twitter is all very logical and positive for privacy and against big tech. Unfortunately someone says something that is remotely questionable (not like this guy has outright praised Trump far as I can tell) and sudetly Proton is a dead service not considering all the good they have done and will (probably) continue to do

I take Mr. Yen’s point in his tweet but does he not see Trump is all for big business? I highly doubt Trump will do anything about big tech as long as they kneel to him. If they defy him then he’ll maybe do something but considering he wants us to be strong against China he won’t in the end probably.

Mr. Yen did post that tweet 4th of December which (I believe) was before Zuckerberg and the rest of big tech publicly cozied up to Trump. I hope he has changed tack on this view of his (haven’t read his tweets since them so don’t know).

Ultimately I will still continue to use Proton since they have the best track record of any email provider but might reconsider. Unfortunately, there isn’t really another option (as far as I know) other than hosting the email server yourself (which is a ball ache)

Totally agree, reading the description of what they want to do sounds decent but it needs to happen. If the EU can be treated as a homogeneous entity for businesses that will really help make things less of a ball ache and the business can focus on their business itself

Let’s see if they can actually make it happen quickly

4x multi-framegen is just like 4x leveraging your position

Had me in the first half not gonna lie

The territory they occupy in Ukrain is not theirs. They literally gave it to the Ukrainians during USSR era.

People on YouTube have to make money and it works. They do actually follow through with the title so it’s not that bad

That’s very fair, I wasn’t clear enough that I meant it was fine to support Israel in the fact they are allowed to protect themselves. Every country has that right.

Unfortunately, the Israeli’s have gone crazy with the leeway the west has left for them. It’s also funny that though the EU supports Israel overall, they still send lots of aid to Palestine cause they recognise that Israel is destroying that part of the world

Settinging asside the likelyhood that many personal stories there are fantacy. There are just fewer people on this platform and probably the many new people from the last little bit are still testing the waters.

But primarily, I think nowadays people understand that if they put their data online anywhere, there is a chance someone could use it against them. Hence, people here are not doing it as much.

With regards to supporting Israel, at first it was fine (since the last attack) but how they can continue to support a regime conducting genocide upon Gazans is beyond me. However, in many UN calls for the conflict to end, it was ever only the US that voted in favour of Israel. I don’t think they abandoned the rules, its just that a rules based worked order is only as reliable as those who enforce it

It does seem to me that a rules based world is not viable (for now) because none of the big players actually follow the rules. Ex: China for a while has not followed trade rules and subsiquently neither has the US (since they became scared of China’s rapid development). With trump 2.0, the world policeman is starting to look very fascist which is not a situation any EU leader could have fathomed a decade ago.

If anything, the EU has been trying to bolster the EU as an entity inorder to protect itself. It’s just not everyone in the EU agrees on that course and due to the unanimity requirements, things just can’t change. Since the end of WW2 Europe has been a vassel for the US and even until now that’s not markedly changes even if it’s gotten a little more difficult with the creation of the EU.

That being said, if the EU cannot finally get their shit together then I agree with your last point, they will be eaten alive by the US and China

Tried to walk there through my phone. It didn’t work either and think I broke my nose

I think your core message is completely true. But imho, probably this is what op is talking about with people yelling at their friend. Taking such a forceful stance will push those that are unsure away which is the exact opposite of what we need.

With that said, the fact that you just assumed their stance on politics from a generalised complaint of ‘my friend got yelled at’ is completely unfounded, unfair, and definitely will push away anyone who would consider themselves moderates. Baseless clames is literally how trump became elected and that’s not a good foundation for someone to get elected on

Very true, we need everyone to be open minded. Both those on the platform but also those coming in. I hope the comunity can keep the discourse constructive. Hope you can enjoy the platform!

I think it’s unfair to just assume they are far right cause they are American. Right wing? Sure. More likely to be far right? Also sure. This doesn’t mean we should not welcome them and then try to show them that their specific view points are unfounded (or maybe ours are, there’s the point of discussion). Not just assume they are Nazis when they just ask why people here seem different to them

Thanks for the explanation! Makes sense why people don’t like it now

Unfortunately thats the problem with the world atm. No one cares for the facts, just what ever fits their narrative

Tbh, I don’t think I agree. The only times I feel they can’t really be impartial “even if they say they are” is when they use a sponsors parts to build something. Or otherwise the whole video is sponsored but they kinda are reviewing the fevice. I don’t really like those videos but they are very clear about the fact that it is sponsored so viewers can at least down some salt whilst they watch the video. They also do state some issues they have with the products when they arise which is good (though obviously they may not say everything that’s wrong with it)