Biggest mistake is the optics. I mean, when has fighting back against your oppressor ever gotten reported on positively in the news?
This reminds me of a useful tip: If you ever feel the need to apologize to someone you know was in the wrong; they were abusing you. The language they used in this is a textbook example of how someone acts when they feel like they need to apologize to their abuser.
You see it in discussions about the situation as well. People want to negotiate the Palestinians/ Palestinian supporters down, even if they agree with them, because everyone knows Israel isn’t going to budge. A ceasefire is completely out of the question, obviously
Yes, yes, all the Israeli and foreign tourist teens who were raped and murdered on that day obviously were the real oppressors. It was about time someone „fought back“ against those partying teens in particular… that is what you’re implying.
How about we stop cheering for rape and murder for a moment? Just because Israel is overstepping hard doesn’t mean Hamas terror attack was rightful.
The iof murdered hundreds of israelis on October 7th by dropping bombs and firing tanks on them. There is literally footage of this you can watch and see for yourself.
The accusation of mass rapes is another piece of shitty propaganda trotted out by israel to further try to discredit Palestinians and Hamas.
Why the fuck would people fighting for the freedom of their illegally imprisoned families, children and friends, detour to have a mass rape (and find 40 babies to behead at an outdoor rave), midway through their plan for aquiring folk for the hostage swap and taking them back to Gaza?
Do you also believe the terrorists called Monday and Tuesday hid their guns in working mri machines? Fucking zionist.
The iof murdered hundreds of israelis on October 7th by dropping bombs and firing tanks on them. There is literally footage of this you can watch and see for yourself.
Citation needed. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Why the fuck would people […]
Religious fundamentalism.
Fucking zionist.
Massacres are wrong. Period. Stating that doesn’t make me a Zionist. Thousands of murders from one side don’t make hundreds of murders from the other side rightful. Massacres are never the right tool for any cause.
Sidenote: Downvoting a comment that doesn’t agree with you and upvoting your own response seems like bad etiquette. You do know that all upvotes and downvotes in the fediverse are public, don’t you?
I mean, we’ve now had extensive evidence showing that Israel fired on Israeli civilians (e.g. Nova) and extensive evidence that Israel has no issue bombing hospitals (e.g. al-Ahli).
Edit: we also have extensive evidence showing that Israel has no issue firing up on and injuring thousands of innocent protestors.
I took a stance against you people cheering for massacres. If you think that this is showing a lack of basic human compassion then all irony is lost on you.
[…] you disgusting liberal pig.
I will not respond in kind if that is what you were hoping for.
And I take a stand against liberals like you who think history started on Oct. 7th, 2023.
If you abuse someone to the point of taking their humanity away and they fight back and kill you, the principle blame is not on the one who killed you.
Every Israeli must face the fact that their country is a racist apartheid regime that it is in a state of constant fascist war, every Zionist must reckon with the fact that they will sacrifice their bodies to uphold racism. No Israeli was ever safe in Israel but their voices cannot be valued over the Palestinians. What you are doing is perverting the discussion because you are uncomfortable with the idea of the oppressed fighting back.
Let me put this in a language you can understand in your fragile view of the world, if Jewish prisoners escaped from a concentration camp in Nazi Germany and killed every single guard and kidnapped members of their family as hostages, what would you say to them? Be more civil? See how easily your “concern” falls apart.
Teen girls and tourists at a musical festival are not Nazi guards from a concentration camp. You forgot that little detail in your speech. I’m pretty certain most of the massacre victims never killed anyone. What you’re suggesting is tribal guilt by association.
What you’re suggesting is tribal guilt by association.
Yes I do think that partying next to an open air concentration camp is grounds for being caught in the crossfire of war and getting killed. Israel is a militant country where mandatory military service is required for all of its citizens, not caring for the well being of Palestinians is a fundamental part of Israeli society, so much so that it led to a company hosting a festival next to Gaza.
If I wanted to party I wouldn’t do it next to fucking Auschwitz.
Biggest mistake is the optics. I mean, when has fighting back against your oppressor ever gotten reported on positively in the news?
This reminds me of a useful tip: If you ever feel the need to apologize to someone you know was in the wrong; they were abusing you. The language they used in this is a textbook example of how someone acts when they feel like they need to apologize to their abuser.
You see it in discussions about the situation as well. People want to negotiate the Palestinians/ Palestinian supporters down, even if they agree with them, because everyone knows Israel isn’t going to budge. A ceasefire is completely out of the question, obviously
The French and Italians weren’t willing to budge either. Resistance is not futile.
Yes, yes, all the Israeli and foreign tourist teens who were raped and murdered on that day obviously were the real oppressors. It was about time someone „fought back“ against those partying teens in particular… that is what you’re implying.
How about we stop cheering for rape and murder for a moment? Just because Israel is overstepping hard doesn’t mean Hamas terror attack was rightful.
The iof murdered hundreds of israelis on October 7th by dropping bombs and firing tanks on them. There is literally footage of this you can watch and see for yourself.
The accusation of mass rapes is another piece of shitty propaganda trotted out by israel to further try to discredit Palestinians and Hamas.
Why the fuck would people fighting for the freedom of their illegally imprisoned families, children and friends, detour to have a mass rape (and find 40 babies to behead at an outdoor rave), midway through their plan for aquiring folk for the hostage swap and taking them back to Gaza?
Do you also believe the terrorists called Monday and Tuesday hid their guns in working mri machines? Fucking zionist.
Citation needed. Sounds like a conspiracy theory.
Religious fundamentalism.
Massacres are wrong. Period. Stating that doesn’t make me a Zionist. Thousands of murders from one side don’t make hundreds of murders from the other side rightful. Massacres are never the right tool for any cause.
Sidenote: Downvoting a comment that doesn’t agree with you and upvoting your own response seems like bad etiquette. You do know that all upvotes and downvotes in the fediverse are public, don’t you?
says the zionism defender
I mean, we’ve now had extensive evidence showing that Israel fired on Israeli civilians (e.g. Nova) and extensive evidence that Israel has no issue bombing hospitals (e.g. al-Ahli).
Edit: we also have extensive evidence showing that Israel has no issue firing up on and injuring thousands of innocent protestors.
You mean genocide? I wonder how much Hasbara has destroyed your basic human compassion you disgusting liberal pig.
I took a stance against you people cheering for massacres. If you think that this is showing a lack of basic human compassion then all irony is lost on you.
I will not respond in kind if that is what you were hoping for.
And I take a stand against liberals like you who think history started on Oct. 7th, 2023.
If you abuse someone to the point of taking their humanity away and they fight back and kill you, the principle blame is not on the one who killed you.
Every Israeli must face the fact that their country is a racist apartheid regime that it is in a state of constant fascist war, every Zionist must reckon with the fact that they will sacrifice their bodies to uphold racism. No Israeli was ever safe in Israel but their voices cannot be valued over the Palestinians. What you are doing is perverting the discussion because you are uncomfortable with the idea of the oppressed fighting back.
Let me put this in a language you can understand in your fragile view of the world, if Jewish prisoners escaped from a concentration camp in Nazi Germany and killed every single guard and kidnapped members of their family as hostages, what would you say to them? Be more civil? See how easily your “concern” falls apart.
Teen girls and tourists at a musical festival are not Nazi guards from a concentration camp. You forgot that little detail in your speech. I’m pretty certain most of the massacre victims never killed anyone. What you’re suggesting is tribal guilt by association.
Yes I do think that partying next to an open air concentration camp is grounds for being caught in the crossfire of war and getting killed. Israel is a militant country where mandatory military service is required for all of its citizens, not caring for the well being of Palestinians is a fundamental part of Israeli society, so much so that it led to a company hosting a festival next to Gaza.
If I wanted to party I wouldn’t do it next to fucking Auschwitz.