I did a search from shitjustworks for “reddit die” and did not find https://lemmy.world/c/watchredditdie so I made https://sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie (unnecessarily). This should really not happen. When someone makes a community there should be a “ping” sent out to notify all other federated instances.
And from what I know, if I post to !sh.itjust.works/c/watchredditdie only users on sh.itjust.works will see the posts until other people from other instances randomly come across it somehow and subscribe? This really needs to be improved.
The devs actually talked about this in the AMA from a couple of days ago. Sounds like the current plan is to have all federating servers send their entire list of communities to each other on a regular basis.
The other thing that I think is worth mentioning is Lemmy Community Boost which is basically a bot that serves the same purpose.
https://boost.lemy.lol <- link to it, doesnt work for instances not connected to it like lemmy.world but theres still ~ 26 major ones
Isn’t that intentional though? I don’t believe many instances, especially the small ones, can afford to federate every community. Sure, sometimes it can be a bit annoying but you can always check on lemmyverse.
It should show up in community search even if they’re not constantly pulling down every single post of those communities
And just the instance metadata is tiny
Fair enough
As a middle-ground, I think it’s enough to only sync the community name and user count and maybe the description. More isn’t shown in the search anyway and those 3 data points shouldn’t take too much storage.
Syncing name solves the problem of communities not showing up. The problem with only being shown posts in a community someone on the instance has already subscribed to is more difficult, as you wrote.
A good implementation would be a warning at the creation of a community. Lemmy looks if a community already exist on the instances and display them. It would be on top of a better search.
I’m surprised there was no issue filed for this already, maybe I just failed to find it, but I made a new issue
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4412
if anyone wants to give it a thumbs up reaction then the devs will know to prioritize it, and if you have any ideas you could leave a comment there
Edit: that was somewhat a duplicate of this issue
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2951
Give that one a thumbs up
The community you’re trying to subscribe to only has one post, and I believe that post may predate your instance spinning up.
It’s not really a good example of federation on Lemmy, because it doesn’t have content to federate.
Even your ping idea wouldn’t have worked here
Lemmyverse.net show both communities: https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=watchreddit
It probably didn’t show up in the first place it only has 66 subscribers, and probably none on SJW.
About your second point, you indeed have to promote your community, using !newcommunities@lemmy.world, or related communities. This works quite well usually.
I will add that in your case, people knew about your community as you posted in other communities, but as discussed then, people seemed happy with the existing Reddit-focused communities.
This works quite well usually.
I definitely don’t agree. I think this is very problematic. I rely on
allto find new communities. I don’t think onenewcommunitiessub is a valid replacement. It would suffer from the same issue – people would have to spam their post to every single instances’snewcommunitiessub, which is ridiculous and not even viable.But your solution would require every new instance to subscribe to every community in existence even if no users there care about certain ones. It’s innefficient.
How would you know no one cares if no one can even see them…
“Inefficient” doesn’t seem important since if there’s no content/activity there then it doesn’t use any resources.
Relying on !all to have your newly created community to reach most of the people could work, but using the Scaled sort as it wouldn’t have enough subscribers to push it using Hot or Active.
There is only one !newcommunities@lemmy.world, it has 15k subscribers, seems like a pretty good way to promote it.
I’m not even subscribed to that, and even if I was, and it was a default subscription for every new lemmy.world user, I don’t think it’s a good replacement for a functional search or an
allthat includes all posts from federated instances. I see lots of posts onall-hotwith 0-5 upvotes so it seems fine if it actually showed all communities on federated instances (which it doesn’t).Folks have given you a half dozen solutions here and your answer is consistently dismissive.
Did you want your problem solved or did you just want to bitch and argue?
I don’t agree that they are solutions. The only proposed solutions are in the new github issue that someone created.
did you just want to bitch and argue?
I want lemmy to be better. I want it to be a viable alternative to reddit so people will leave that site.
i mean since you’re gonna be a twat about it, there’s an easy fucking solution: fork lemmy and adjust the federation to your liking.
if you’re not willing to do that, or any of the other workarounds in this thread, you’re just bitching to bitch.
Why is it that an instance decides for me which instances I can see? Why is it that mods are deciding for me which comments are censored?
Instances are the ones hosting the data on their servers + things not having mods can devolve very quickly with things like the nazi bar problem or the scam links that have been getting posted and removed in some communities. This is a different thing than whats in the post though, the post is talking about all communities needing to be fetched manually the first time theyre viewed
Ok, so why can’t I just host the data on my own device and subscribe/unsubscribe from mods’ actions?
You can, it’s called hosting your own instance. It’s literally one of the points of the Fediverse (i.e. ‘Fuck you I don’t like how you’re running things, I’ll go make my own with blackjack and hookers’). If an instance admin does things you don’t like, you get to leave, go to a new instance, and follow the same communities you did before via that one instead.
I still wouldn’t be seeing the content that mods are censoring elsewhere.
Any community that isn’t 100% fully owned and operated by you, yourself, Mango, is going to run into the risk of a mod ‘censoring’ or deleting something that you wanna see.
Any and every community. Here, Reddit, Facebook, any social media, any forum public or private. If you yourself don’t own and run it in its entirely, that’s a problem you cannot avoid.
So I mean this without any real intended offense but: shit or get off the pot. Run your own community that connects to no other system or service run by other people and hope the people you wanna talk to drop by, or tbh get used to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Edit: Can revenge-downvote me all you want Pepsi but I’m right on this one lol.
You know how ublock origin works? You pick out lists of filters that people have made. You’re basically subscribing to moderators.
I don’t think I’m interested in a platform that doesn’t function that way. It’s the only way to make sure moderators aren’t just deciding the narrative for everyone else. It doesn’t matter if the majority of people agree with a moderator’s decisions of those decisions are wrong.
Well I wish you luck in finding what you’re looking for, but Lemmy/Kbin by definition isn’t it.
I run a modabuse community for whining about mods and hopefully holding them accountable
Host your own instance and that would be the case
I wouldn’t be seeing what mods are censoring elsewhere. It wouldn’t be the case.
Modlog is public
