China using families as 'hostages' to quash Uyghur dissent abroad
www.bbc.co.uk
Refugees and activists tell the BBC intimidation tactics are tearing apart Uyghur communities overseas.
  • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
    01·
    1 year ago

    Imagine thinking governments, fascists and PR agencies wouldn’t migrate to wherever people choose to hang out and continue their decades-long campaign to brainwash people into believing whatever is convenient for them.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      12·
      1 year ago

      I see you don’t understand the concept of niches. Governments, fascists, and PR agencies are going to spend their effort where it makes the most impact. Only a brainwashed person couldn’t comprehend that people could legitimately disagree with their world view, and anybody who thinks different from them must therefore be a paid troll.

      • socsa@lemmy.ml
        01·
        1 year ago

        PSA: these kinds of threads are a great way to create blocklists of western bootlickers and trolls.

        This you?

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee
        01·
        1 year ago

        And now you’re defending the practice.

        How about, you and the rest of the dumbasses pushing your propaganda garbage go find another place to peddle it? Like hell?

          • socsa@lemmy.ml
            0·
            1 year ago

            First, I will take the compliment with grace.

            Second, this forum deserves a better class of communist. This shit is just intellectually lazy.

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
              02·
              1 year ago

              Most socialists are people in the global south. Their projects that “tankies” support are actually being done. Most of this “you’re a tankie” shit stems from western chauvinist white man’s burden shit. Call us when you’ve done a successful socialist revolution, until then we’re going to be emulating the ideologies of successful socialist projects.

              Edit: because lol “the US did a revolution” , read “the counter revolution of 1776”

              • socsa@lemmy.ml
                0·
                1 year ago

                So engaging in violence is the determining factor for determining who can have opinions?

                That’s great news, because Marx drew pretty heavily from the French and US revolutions when discussing his own revolutionary framework. Where do I pick up my badge?

                Edit - Just do a revolution! No not that way!

                • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
                  02·
                  1 year ago

                  So engaging in violence is the determining factor for determining who can have opinions?

                  No, you are free to engage in revolutionary violence that results in a socialist society with a communist ruling party or elect your way into a socialist society with a communist ruling party. Plenty of socialists did the latter, they just didn’t live for long. If you do that I’ll gladly listen to you.

                  • socsa@lemmy.ml
                    0·
                    1 year ago

                    Wow that kind of seems like a very narrow view of who can have a voice. It seems to exclude any socialist tradition which is skeptical of revolutionary praxis, or any statecraft which is not based on democratic centralism. Do I have that correct? You only find Orthodoxy and Leninism valid and are not interested in any forms of libertarian or democratic socialism?