• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      All leftists are in tears, Biden is a center-right Capitalist. Leftists should vote for Biden, but they can understandably be upset that they have to vote for a Neoliberal just to prevent a fascist, while liberals and fascists get to gleefully trot to the ballot box and vote for someone that actually represents their views.

      You want leftists to side with you happily? Maybe try appealing to leftists, instead of running on the basis of not being a fascist.

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          That’s what exactly no theory does to someone.

          Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism. Neoliberalism is letting Capitalism loose, which will result in Capitalists gaining power and creating an absolute bourgeois state to oppress the Workers, typically by providing an “enemy” as a response to increasing disparity and a slipping of the grasp of Capital.

          Fascism is a response to Neoliberalism, but is not the same, and in the US election the Neoliberal party and the fascist party vary significantly when it comes to social issues. Violence against minority populations is vastly increased under republican governance, and those I love are not privledged enough to not be in danger.

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            Neoliberalism leads to and enables fascism down the road, but itself is not fascism.

            no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.

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                  Elaborate. You said it’s fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?

                  This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That’s like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.

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                    fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don’t think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.

                    fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.

                    neoliberalism is fascism.

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      11 months ago

      No one has to vote for Genocide Joe. Imagine calling people tankies while living in the most authoritarian country on earth.

    • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      Tankies don’t know their own history. Stalin helped to found Israel, expecting it to be socialist. USSR was the first to recognise it de jure and Czechoslovakia supplied it with weapons.

      Later, when Israel sided with the west, USSR started a policy of anti-zionism, restricted rights of Jewish people and supplied weapons to Israel’s enemies.