• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Yeah well Dems stopping tax cuts for the rich don’t hurt us as much

    Who said anything about them stopping tax cuts for the rich? I was talking about stuff Democrats did 2 years ago, like stopping the minimum wage increase and BBB. You know, their accomplishments.

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      How in the world can you contribute that to the Dems when they were split and Republicans almost unanimously voted against it.

      If you’re issue is that they should have all voted to push it through then absolutely I wish they would too and you should vote in a way that reinforces what you’d like to see.

      That being said of our two options Dems support it the most. If your argument is that we should have more options to vote for what we really want then we agree again, we need voter reform to make 3rd options viable via multi-choice voting

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        9 months ago

        How in the world can you contribute that to the Dems when they were split and Republicans almost unanimously voted against it.

        BBB never made it to the floor, thanks to the only Democrat whose voice matters, Joe Manchin.

        If you’re issue is that they should have all voted to push it through then absolutely I wish they would too

        My issue is that the party is useless on purpose. Your issue is that I don’t worship them for it.

        I wish they would too and you should vote in a way that reinforces what you’d like to see.

        There is no available way to vote that will ever reinforce what I’d like to see. Democrats oppose me less than Republicans do and that’s the best they’ll ever be willing to do.

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          9 months ago

          Based insane take divorced from reality.

          What in my reply made it seem like I worship them, they’re the best we have and I long for better way but the only way we’re going to get better is voteing reform on many levels.

          Voting in fascists out of spite does no good.

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            9 months ago

            And predictable as the dawn, there it is.

            The assumption that anger at Democrats’ deliberate uselessness means advocacy for voting for Republicans.

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              9 months ago

              These people are just as blind as the fringe right conspiracist nutjobs. It’s like they’re arguing that McDonalds is better than Burger King because they only spit in your food 75% of the time rather than 95% of the time, while you’re arguing that we shouldn’t be eating at either of these restaurants to begin with. To top it all off they call you insane and a fascist for not agreeing with them.

              This country is so fucked.

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                9 months ago

                Centrist Democrats can’t imagine that people who don’t want any spit at all in their burgers actually exist.

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              9 months ago

              But it does, due to the unfortunate way our voting system is structured until massive voting reform voting for anyone accept the big two is literally voting for the other. It sucks but unless we change it we have to live with that

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                  9 months ago

                  Nope, I’m very vocal about criticism and fixing it but the solution you suggest has already horribly backfired once but by all means shoot yourself in the foot again

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                    9 months ago

                    the solution you suggest

                    What solution did I suggest?

                    Oh right. You don’t care. You don’t want to listen, just lecture.

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                9 months ago

                if I said they were both old men or politicians or obscenely wealthy, would you think I’m saying they are the same?

                they can share traits without being the same.

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                  9 months ago

                  Some Democrats want to be the same across as many issues as possible without being called the same.