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    9 months ago

    The Green Party in the US is just an extension of the Kremlin aimed at peeling votes away from Democrats in key races.

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        What are you talking about? Every “green” party I know in Europe is very much against the war in Ukraine and holds Russia responsible. They are about as anti Russia as it gets. Green parties are also very much pro Europe, they want a stronger Europe with more members and cooperation in the EU. Green parties are either center-left or totally left leaning. Green parties usually get a big chunk of votes, not only marginal like in the US.

        Russia is heavily funding and supporting the right and far right parties, who are almost all against a unified Europe. Russia is doing their best to break up the EU with campaigns of misinformation, bots, advertising and direct/indirect funding of right wing political parties.

        And Russia is succeeding as well with the far right on the rise all over Europe. They already got Brexit through against all odds and are now working on breaking up the rest. In Germany the rise of the right is still fresh, so there is a lot of resistance. But other countries are much less resistant.

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          Russia is heavily funding and supporting the right and far right parties

          Welcome to the new warfare that caught the west totally off-guard. The “poorly educated” were the first casualties and have been recycled into the Russian forces.

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            I’m genuinely curious if there is no way to stop all/most of these influence & astroturf ops, will we just see a walled off internet with hefty firewalls or content moderation at national ‘borders’? It’d be a huge upheaval to the internet, but otherwise we’re stuck trying for a 100% defense against state cyber attacks

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              My personal take here is that playing defense is a losing game and that we really need to kick off another 1968 movement. A counter culture that is infecting and firmly against Russia and conservatives.

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          Thanks for the info. I admit my experience was based on the Italian greens who are irrelevant and generally left leaning, which in Italy means Russophile like anything left of the dems, and on what I know of the German greens, which is that they lobbied for getting rid of clean energy and ramping up the use of coal / gas / petrol, all Russian imports.

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        I don’t know about other European countries, but Germany’s greens have kept a relatively tidy ship compared to other parties.

        Which is why Russia is puppeteering Germany’s far-right to view them as a kind of combined enemy, you often hear them use the term “Linksgrunversifft” / “left-green-soiled” towards people who hold the wrong opinions.

        Didn’t they push a similar joined term in America 2016? I remember encountering the words “liberal elite” a lot, probably an attempt to redirect the resentment against the uppity conservative establishment towards liberals instead. I guess it worked.