The US primaries and the general election are two different things. Voting uncommitted in the primary expresses support for the Palestinian plight and does not give Republicans any ground.

The uncommitted movement presents a safe and effective avenue for voters to voice dissatisfaction with President Biden’s policies, particularly with the Israel-Hamas conflict. By doing so in the primary, voters can signal discontent without risking a Republican victory in the general election. The purpose is to send a wake-up call to the Biden administration that it is failing to address issues and effectively engage with the party, vis a vis that Biden is enabling a genocide.

That being said, anyone who calls for an uncommitted or third-party vote in the general election i will personally kick in the gender neutral balls (in Minecraft).

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    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

    Israel is definitely complicit in genocide

     In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
    
    Killing members of the group;
    Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
    Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
    Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
    
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      … Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent …

      The intent is probably the most important part of this definition and I don’t believe that Israel fulfills that part. There are extensive measures taken to prevent civilian deaths. However this is still a war, in which civilians die.

      There are also rules about human shields which defines using human shields as “… intentional co-location of military objectives and civilians …”. Which Hamas has undeniably been doing.

      The burden to keep civilians out of military targets falls to the governing authority, which is Hamas.

      It is important to recognize, that all these rules around war are designed to protect some groups (civilians) while still allowing for military operations. The problem is, that if these rules were to prevent nations from pursuing military objectives, because the other party commits war crimes (such as using human shields) nobody would follow these laws.

      For that reason civilians kind of loose most protections when used as human shields (§3). As well as proportionally laws taking effect, that permit civilian harm to an extend if it is necessary to pursue proportionally valuable military objectives.

      THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT’S NOT BAD, just probably not illegal under international law. It is reasonable to demand change and to condemn Israel on moral grounds however. Personally I also believe Israel needs to do some big changes in regards to settlements and humanitarian aid. But also the status quo needed to change. I don’t understand Hamas’ goal, they obviously will never win. Idk why they are refusing ceasefire agreements etc. I understand resentment against Israel, but let’s be real, their negotiating power just becomes less and less.

      And obviously everything needs to be investigated, but I don’t know if any damming convictions actually come from this.

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        Blocking food aide at the borders and targeting hospitals with precise missile strikes isn’t intentional? That’s a stretch.

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        The more I read it, the more I agree with you. The other part of genocide is you must prove intent to eliminate more than just a political group. Right now the Israeli are killing a lot of innocent people, but they keep saying their goal is to eliminate Hamas, not Gaza. They know what they’re doing, and likely chose that language to avoid being accused of genocide.

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      You could take that to mean that Ukraine is committing genocide against the Russians because they are “destroying a national group in part” by “killing members of the group.” Literally any warfare would be defined as genocide under this. It’s utterly meaningless and needs to be better defined.