Most of you probably know the memes about homes not being affordable to younger generations. It is true, that they are, at least, less affordable as illustrated by Figure 4-1. The reasons for that however aren’t evil Landlords, who want to leech as much as possible. It is more a combination of several factors:

Years of Bad Politics™️ has led to too few houses being built and now there is a shortage. As any highschooler, after paying attention in economics for 30min, can tell you: low supply + high demand = bad for consumers

Following that, most young people want to live in big cities, preferably the few biggest ones. That puts additional strain on these local markets.

Another big contributor to this problem is that Homeowners want to keep the value of their homes up. Anyone wants their assets to rise in value. But since they are the ones who vote in local elections, they vote to keep houses expensive. That means weird zoning, no new Homes etc.

In defense of renting

Renting apartments or even Houses is a good concept. I pay some entity to keep my housing repaired, up to code etc. As a consequence I don’t risk most of my net-worth being deleted by a storm or similar. Renting is more expensive than owning on average, but renters have none of the risk that owning implies.

I personally like fixing and modifying stuff. That includes Computers furniture and Houses. However I also know a lot of people who don’t. They don’t trust themselves to drill a hole in a wall. For those people shifting the responsibility of fixing smaller things to a landlord can be beneficial.

It also frees people up to move around, when their job/life requires it.

Solutions

Build more houses.

Its that simple. Cities need to rezone and remove houses in favor of multi-family buildings or even skyscrapers. Houses in a city make no sense. You want to be in a city to have a lot of people in a small area. Why would you spread out everyone in suburban wastelands.

If you want a house yourself, go to rural areas. I know you nerds are spending your entire social life on the Internet. It’s probably way cheaper to get a fiber connection into the middle of nowhere than paying for city houses. “Mimimi, but there are no queer communities” Then start one. Imagine how powerful all you queer furries will be if you take your tech jobs remote and save like 70% of your housing expenses. Just don’t spend the extra cash on more porn.

I know that when I’m done with my degrees I’ll be building my lair where no ethics boards will find me. My machines will be efficient and my fungi growing fast.

If I have convinced you to embrace the hermit life, come join me. I am always in need of more minions.

  • riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    landlords are part of the issue. they dont simply provide a public service and get payed for their work and risk. they sit on a vital resource that ppl need to survive and exploit that. landlords, especially big ones, extort as much as they can, consitently raising rents without good reason, while doing even less than the minimum amount of work.

    no one is saying that everyone should own their own house but the landlord/renting model is exploitative shit.

    really most of capitalism is like that but ig we notice it more when its so close to us.

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      I mean, they can only do that, because people are willing to pay that. Just increase the supply and prices should go down. If they artificially keep them high, government should step in.

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        I mean, they can only do that, because people are willing to pay that. Just increase the supply and prices should go down

        You could make the same argument about medical care in the US. Shelter is a survival need. You can’t just go without it if it’s too expensive. So (like medical care) it makes no sense for there to be no public option to exert downward pressure on the market. Really it makes no sense for so much of the stock to be in a market at all, but at the very least there should be a viable public option. (Public housing stock in the US is incredibly insufficient and there are decade-longs waitlists for housing vouchers.)

        However, a large number of policymakers in this country (and probably most countries) are landlords and very few are renters. Expecting a class to act against their own interests because it’s the right thing to do is naive.

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          I mean, if you had a bunch more hospitals, probably. But that requires a lot more doctors etc.

          In a way it’s already proving my point. By having cheaper in-network doctors the price goes down if you are able to choose.

          The problem is, that healthcare is often an emergency thereby creating an inelastic market by removing that choice.

          That doesn’t mean that the American health care system isn’t also super weird for other reasons tho.

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      OP: debunks magical thinking about landlords by pointing out that the law of supply and demand is a thing

      You: “but but but whatabout my magical thinking about landlords???!”

      Frankly, I’m starting to get real sick and tired of people refusing to get on board with solving the real problem – zoning density restrictions – because they insist on looking for some outside villain to scapegoat instead of admitting that the villain is us and the consequences of our own shortsighted NIMBY demands!

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        you do realise that supply and demand are just the enabling factors that cause landlords to be able to extort as much they want, right?

        magical thinking about landlords?

        what magical thinking? that they are greedy and unethical and try to make the most profit out of their control over a vital resource? what is magical about that? how exactly did op debunk that?

        do you know why we have scarcity of housing? because capitalists profit from it. by keeping the supply lower than the demand, they can ask for more while doing less. its not in their interrest to construct more housing. the more they build the less profitable it becomes.

        thats why i am advocating from moving away entirely from a profit oriented financing model and private ownership model for housing.

        yes, my landlord is not individually responsible for the issues with housing. its a systemic issue. my landlord is still a leech that extorts me.

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          here’s an unpopular opinion in basically every circle: supply and demand is a meaningless tautology in its only “useful” form.

          it is a post-hoc explanation for price discovery, but it lacks all predictive value. as scientific theories go, it’s widely debunked and discredited, and lacks all predictive value. i would go so far as to say there is no economic theory that is more than post-hoc explanation and, so economic theory is indistinguishable from storytelling.

          i agree with the thrust of the position that landlords are leeches. i would never try to use an quantifying economic theory to justify that.

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          you do realise that supply and demand are just the enabling factors that cause landlords to be able to extort as much they want, right?

          Of course I do; that’s the fucking point.

          The question is, do you? If you want to stop landlords, you do it by fixing the supply problem so that landlording stops being lucrative!

          do you know why we have scarcity of housing? because capitalists profit from it.

          No, that’s a lie. We have scarcity of housing because the government literally prohibits expanding supply by law, because the NIMBYs demand it. The vast, overwhelming majority of those NIMBYs are not landlords, but instead merely owners of the single property they live in who want to eat their cake and have it, too.

          thats why i am advocating from moving away entirely from a profit oriented financing model and private ownership model for housing.

          You’re advocating for bullshit fantasy that will never happen, at the expense of any solution that’s actually realistic!