Supporting either side in this idiotic war over religion is stupid. That said, I don’t know what anyone expected Iran to do after Israel bombed their embassy.
You can just support international law, you don’t have to choose between Israel and Iran. Embassies are considered soverign soil of the nation they represent and so bombing an embassy is a direct attack on another country. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 they got sanctioned by the international community. There are plenty of other examples in recent history of consequences for aggression. The only question is why is Israel exempt from consequences that apply to other countries? That’s what this false dichotomy (Israel vs. Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah etc.) is trying to mask- instead of asking why Israel is exempt from legal consequences it changes the dialogue to “if you don’t support Israel then you support terrorism” and thereby nullifies international law since the law is applied selectively.
What I see is that in general, the big powers, as in the US and China don’t hold their close allies accountable. It’s not like China held Russia to account for Bucha or Ukraine in general.
So continue to get walked all over. Makes sense. Israel has been illegally hitting Iranian targets in Syria for years and years, Israel had the US assassinate Soleimani, yet Iran never responded in kind. But bombing and embassy was an obvious last straw.
Israel didn’t do shit to make us kill Soleimani. Soleimani was literally meeting with someone who we blamed for an attack on the US embassy in Iraq. He was the other person killed in the strike. Iran knew they fucked up there, which is why their response was throwing a fairly ineffective barrage at a military base and then shooting down their own civilian airliner.
It does seem extremely likely that israel was involved in this as getting America in a war with Iran is something israel would absolutely love. Trump is directly throwing Netanyahu under the bus here for seemingly no reason.
There are also other reports being sourced in the article:
Between the lines: It’s unclear if Trump’s anger is entirely justified. A senior Israeli defense official told me that Israel proposed a more active role for Israeli forces but the U.S. insisted on being the ones to execute the
Israel also provided the U.S. with key intelligence support, including tracking Soleimani’s cellphone, Yahoo News
The former senior U.S. official said Trump’s anger wasn’t totally warranted, but that he put the episode into the same box he had put his feelings for NATO — of allies wanting the U.S. to do their fighting for them.
Just like the Iraq invasion also turned out to have heavy israeli pressure to attack Iraq behind it. And Syria… Israel has a rather large track record for pushing America to attack their enemies in the Middle East.
Well, Iran was providing weapons to various groups that were fighting Israel. The target Israel hit was a military target that supposedly was a meeting of high ranking personnel from various groups. Iran’s involvement is typically indirect and involves support through these proxies rather than direct confrontation. This strategy allows Iran to confront Israeli interests without engaging in open warfare.
Again, I don’t think any country should be fighting or providing military aid to fight indirectly (this includes the US providing weapons to Israel). The world is a terrible place and we should be focusing on making it better, not having petty squabbles over land.
Preface: I have no favorite in that conflict, I’m just answering your question. They’re all being children imo.
On the broader topic, Iran’s significant support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, both of which are considered major security threats by Israel, has been a central factor driving Israeli military actions. Iran supplies these groups with financial aid, weapons, and training, enhancing their capabilities against Israel.
Regarding the specific target in Syria, I assume this Israel’s attempt to prevent Iran from gaining a strategic position to launch attacks against Israel.
There have been conflicts in this region for a very long time. They are pretty much always at war.
Personally I think Iran kinda spoiled ever getting to complain about foul play involving foreign embassies, what I’m more interested in here is how far the US is gonna go in retaliation, because obviously they’re gonna do something here, I’m just wondering how much it’ll be and in what form.
Personally if I was making the call, I’d sweep the IDF out of Gaza altogether and relegate them to “defensive line duty”, or more accurately “DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE TOUCH ANYTHING YOU GENOCIDAL MORONS.”, and then kill two birds with an army of drones, Iran just invited destruction onto all of their war material production shit and Russia is probably shitting bricks that their entire reserve strategy just got exposed to causus belli.
Russia is gleefully rubbing their hands because they know the US public can literally only keep one thought in their heads at once and this grantees political apathy towards the Russian invasion.
Maybe not though. Russia needs all the drones they can get from Iran. Israel making Iran focus on them negates part of the supply support Russia requires for Ukraine.
Iran and China are 100% necessary. That’s where Russia is getting components from. Russia mostly doing final assembly. Reports nearly weekly bring up Chinese and even US made components being found in Russian equipment.
Supporting either side in this idiotic war over religion is stupid. That said, I don’t know what anyone expected Iran to do after Israel bombed their embassy.
You can just support international law, you don’t have to choose between Israel and Iran. Embassies are considered soverign soil of the nation they represent and so bombing an embassy is a direct attack on another country. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 they got sanctioned by the international community. There are plenty of other examples in recent history of consequences for aggression. The only question is why is Israel exempt from consequences that apply to other countries? That’s what this false dichotomy (Israel vs. Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah etc.) is trying to mask- instead of asking why Israel is exempt from legal consequences it changes the dialogue to “if you don’t support Israel then you support terrorism” and thereby nullifies international law since the law is applied selectively.
What I see is that in general, the big powers, as in the US and China don’t hold their close allies accountable. It’s not like China held Russia to account for Bucha or Ukraine in general.
Revenge for revenge for revenge, oh my!
What exactly would you suggest a country does after another country bombs their embassy? Send flowers and say pretty please don’t do it again uWu?
Be the bigger human and stop the violence is what I would expect.
So continue to get walked all over. Makes sense. Israel has been illegally hitting Iranian targets in Syria for years and years, Israel had the US assassinate Soleimani, yet Iran never responded in kind. But bombing and embassy was an obvious last straw.
Israel didn’t do shit to make us kill Soleimani. Soleimani was literally meeting with someone who we blamed for an attack on the US embassy in Iraq. He was the other person killed in the strike. Iran knew they fucked up there, which is why their response was throwing a fairly ineffective barrage at a military base and then shooting down their own civilian airliner.
Known liar claims someone else was going to help him do something bad after getting in trouble for it.
It does seem extremely likely that israel was involved in this as getting America in a war with Iran is something israel would absolutely love. Trump is directly throwing Netanyahu under the bus here for seemingly no reason.
There are also other reports being sourced in the article:
Trump felt used on Soleimani strike: “Israel did not do the right thing”
Just like the Iraq invasion also turned out to have heavy israeli pressure to attack Iraq behind it. And Syria… Israel has a rather large track record for pushing America to attack their enemies in the Middle East.
Well, Israel is gonna hit back. So, where does it end, since you seem to think my idea is bad.
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Blame Israel then.
Iran is not innocent either. The people of Gaza are getting the short end of the stick.
Iran did just that. Israel spit on their faces. Now they get what they deserve.
Well, Iran was providing weapons to various groups that were fighting Israel. The target Israel hit was a military target that supposedly was a meeting of high ranking personnel from various groups. Iran’s involvement is typically indirect and involves support through these proxies rather than direct confrontation. This strategy allows Iran to confront Israeli interests without engaging in open warfare.
Again, I don’t think any country should be fighting or providing military aid to fight indirectly (this includes the US providing weapons to Israel). The world is a terrible place and we should be focusing on making it better, not having petty squabbles over land.
Then you should campaign for the extinction of Israel, as the zionist state does nothing but cause suffering.
Are you suggesting genocide?
Last I checked, countries aren’t genes…
What was Israel’s rationale for bombing Iran’s embassy in Syria and killing 12 Iranians? Revenge for what?
Preface: I have no favorite in that conflict, I’m just answering your question. They’re all being children imo.
On the broader topic, Iran’s significant support for Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, both of which are considered major security threats by Israel, has been a central factor driving Israeli military actions. Iran supplies these groups with financial aid, weapons, and training, enhancing their capabilities against Israel.
Regarding the specific target in Syria, I assume this Israel’s attempt to prevent Iran from gaining a strategic position to launch attacks against Israel.
There have been conflicts in this region for a very long time. They are pretty much always at war.
Personally I think Iran kinda spoiled ever getting to complain about foul play involving foreign embassies, what I’m more interested in here is how far the US is gonna go in retaliation, because obviously they’re gonna do something here, I’m just wondering how much it’ll be and in what form.
Personally if I was making the call, I’d sweep the IDF out of Gaza altogether and relegate them to “defensive line duty”, or more accurately “DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE TOUCH ANYTHING YOU GENOCIDAL MORONS.”, and then kill two birds with an army of drones, Iran just invited destruction onto all of their war material production shit and Russia is probably shitting bricks that their entire reserve strategy just got exposed to causus belli.
Russia is gleefully rubbing their hands because they know the US public can literally only keep one thought in their heads at once and this grantees political apathy towards the Russian invasion.
Maybe not though. Russia needs all the drones they can get from Iran. Israel making Iran focus on them negates part of the supply support Russia requires for Ukraine.
The only thing required for Russia to win is the US to continue not sending aid.
Iran and China are no longer necessary. Russia’s wartime economy is in full swing.
Iran and China are 100% necessary. That’s where Russia is getting components from. Russia mostly doing final assembly. Reports nearly weekly bring up Chinese and even US made components being found in Russian equipment.