• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I’ve never cared about Biden’s age. Centrists were ageist as hell during the 2016 primaries, and I don’t go there.

    Biden supports genocide and he should stop. No matter how much it would disappoint centrist Democrats.

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      6 months ago

      You’re not going to find many people here that disagree with that. We’re just well aware that as awful as Biden is regarding it, there’s a 0% chance Trump isn’t miles worse. Anyone who doesn’t want to accept that is delusional.

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        6 months ago

        You’re not going to find many people here that disagree with that.

        You’d think so, wouldn’t you.

        You go on to insinuate that I’m a trumper for saying anything that isn’t flat out worship of Biden and his support for genocide.

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          6 months ago

          Not sure where I implied that at all. I simply said expecting Trump to be any better on the issue is moronic.

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              6 months ago

              I never said you said that, and I really don’t think I implied it. I said anyone who doesn’t realize the reality of the situation is a moron. I’m not sure why you’re so insistent to interpret that as “you specifically think this and are stupid”

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                  6 months ago

                  I was providing the primary reason a lot of us are holding our noses and voting for Biden anyway. Not everything is a personal attack against you.

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                    6 months ago

                    And we don’t have some magical moral choice here. We’re getting these 2, no questioning that. That’s why ensign crab connected the toddler. Because he inherently knows those are the choices. So having wet dreams about Biden not being a Zionist isn’t doing anyone favors.

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                    6 months ago

                    I mean, Biden could stop supporting genocide. But you don’t want him to. No centrist does.

            • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              No of course not but things don’t happen in a vacuum. On balance, the alliance with Israel and the West is more important because it contains Iran.

              There is no area more critical to global security than the Middle East for the next 100 years, and Iran is a time bomb of far right religious insanity. Iran has 90,000,000 people living in it, man. I’m talking about 90,000,000 people. 90,000,000. You want to talk about 30,000 as if its the end of the world, as if it matters more than an alliance that protects tens of millions of people, even from themselves? There are floods that kill 30,000 people in an afternoon. Hamas has allies all over the region that kills 30,000 civilians every year. The world isn’t going to cede any democracy, flawed or not, to Iran, or any other religious dictatorship, over a small town worth of people.

              Preventing a larger war between Israel and Iran is how life and human rights will be secured and protected for new generations in the middle east, it will absolutely not come from any Imamate or Caliphate, or from any far right system of violent religious autocracy, such as are wildly popular and deeply entrenched in Gaza, Iran, and Yemen.