• reddig33@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Voting does make you complicit in the things the candidate has said they will do. For example, if the candidate says “I will get rid of abortion” then voting for them means you are partially responsible if they actually do get rid of abortion. Or if they say “I will kill all the gays” or “I will lock up all non-Christians” then don’t act all surprised pikachu face when it happens.

    It’s not a blood pact, but it’s not a football game either where you’re just rooting for your team. You have to weigh the consequences of casting a vote for someone and decide if you can live with the possible outcomes and/or pick the lesser of two evils.

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      6 months ago

      If you don’t pick the lesser of two evils, you’re saying you’re okay with the greater.

      Man, the famed revolutionary Robespierre once said, “To rule innocently is insanity.” He was wrong about numerous other things, but he fucking nailed that on the head. There are no good decisions in positions of power. If you fail oh-so-nobly, the nobility of your fall and refusal to compromise with your ideals isn’t going to save a single goddamn person, and there’s a good goddamn chance it’ll kill many, many more. Every decision has costs in the lives of innocent people, and there is no abstention from that that is anything more than giving license to the currently-occurring trends happening.

      In a democracy, we share power. The more democratic the society, the more power is shared - and the power that is shared also comes with responsibility for what that power does. The modern US is less democratic than it should be, but it’s much more democratic than pre-Enlightenment societies - or prior incarnations of the US, for that matter. We all have blood on our hands, because we all have a share of the decision-making power.

      We must choose the option that improves things to most - or damages things the least - to the best of our ability, whether in voting, organizing, protesting; all of it. And abrogation of that decision-making responsibility in any area is not abrogation of guilt; it is acceptance of the worse of the results.

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        6 months ago

        I think the best analogy I’ve heard had compared voting to transportation. If you’re at the office and want to go home, there probably isn’t a train that goes directly to your front door. So you get on the train heading in the right direction, and maybe at the end of that line you still need to take a bus and walk a couple blocks, but that’s how you ultimately get where you want to go. Otherwise you’re going to be in the same spot waiting for a perfect train that’s not coming.

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          6 months ago

          So you get on the train heading in the right direction

          This assumes any trains will get you closer to your destination.

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                6 months ago

                Yeah this is what I called out in my other comment. The pathetically stupid idea that anyone not simping for trump loves genocide

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                  6 months ago

                  I’m voting for Biden. I get that you want to cast any opposition to genocide as simping for your close second choice, but it ain’t so.

                  Biden should stop supporting genocide, even if though that will lose him your vote.

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                    Lol dumb as fuck. Yeah I’m so sure you’re voting for Biden right after spending months campaigning against him every fucking day. Then when trump wins and destroys what’s left of democracy, you totally won’t be happy about it. Because of course the Palestinians will all be in concentration camps and it will be big bad Biden’s fault because he personally put them there along with somehow everyone who didn’t personally fellate trump every day on social media.