• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    You know you can get people to do this without threatening them with starvation and homelessness right?

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      1 year ago

      I asked sapient_cogbag who would do the automation work he likes to be implemented? Because someone has to get up in the morning and actually do that work, it doesn’t grow on it’s own.

      And you’re asking me about threats of starvation and homelessness … I don’t get it …

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        1 year ago

        The current way we coerce (by threatening starvation and homelessness) is not the only way to make people do things. I agree that free everything forever with sprinkles is probably not going to work or allow us to maintain our current quality of life (I too like pop-tarts medicine, and computers). It’s not a binary. There are options in between that can be used to motivate people to do even unpleasant things.

        I think we coerce way to much and I think a lot of coercion that we do benefits only a few people and not the many.

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              I’m not coerced, I choose to. I could very well live off the land. The only difference would be the life standard and what I can afford, but hey smartphones, internet and restaurants are a first world luxuries not real life needs.

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                1 year ago

                Oh my bad. I did realize you’re one of the 12ish people that can do that. Can you imagine not having that ability and sympathize with people who don’t have that ability? If not, we don’t really have any common ground to stand on.

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                1 year ago

                I thought of another good argument so I’m posting it here.

                Saying that I can stop working anytime and eat dirt is not really selling me on your ideas.

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                  1 year ago

                  And I’m not trying to sell to you anything. I never said you can stop working. I never said you can eat dirt.

                  You can stop working only if someone else has already worked for you accumulating value so you can consume now. Even a big business if going forward only through work. The work of you or of your forefathers that you consume now but someone, sometime had to work.

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                    1 year ago

                    Okay I’m confused. I thought we were talking about corrosion. What does your reply have to do with corrosion?

                    I never said anything about stopping work. But I do think if humanity can produce enough, we should work less relative to how much we can produce.