PlayStation’s CEO drastically overestimates the PC crowd’s wallet capacity, thinks PC gamers will buy an inferior, overpriced, locked down PC that can only play specific games on a non-replacable proprietary OS with planned obsolescence for when the PS6 comes out
I’ll never not be a PC gamer but calling PS overpriced at the moment is wild. Compared to the cost of PC components right now 5 or 6 hundred is not ridiculous. That’s cheaper than mid to high tier GPU alone.
You are forgetting that you have to pay to play online. Your $500 console is an $800 console if you use it for 5 years. You can build a roughly PS5 equivalent PC (RX 6700) for more like $650-700 which is less overall.
Plus it’s a computer so you can also use it for normal computer things, and the games themselves are generally much cheaper with a huge backlog and sales all the time.
I did forget that.
Also that price point is awesome, I just dumped a ton on a fresh build.
I didn’t want to minmax on it but it’s cool you can get it that low and still have that level of quality.
Gotta hate NVIDIA.
My PC game library goes back literally 30+ years. (I think the oldest game I play occasionally is Eye of the Beholder, 1991. The original doom is still good and from 1993)
This is an excellent point. The availability of games.
On PC, you can play pretty much every game ever, with varying degrees of legality, whether directly, or indirectly using an emulator, with the only exception to this being very modern titles on consoles which do not have an emulator for PC yet, or that are still locked in a bullshit exclusivity deal.
Meanwhile, PS/XBox is limited to whatever Sony/Microsoft deems appropriate to have on their console.
On console you live and die by someone else’s rules, on PC, the sky is the limit.
The Eye of the Beholder series really bring back childhood memories, even if i didn’t finish any of them - furthest i got was in EotB 2, and i after being stuck for a while in an area with those cultists i gave up. i didn’t even understand english back then lol
I only had the first one. I found it at a yard sale, and luckily they also had the instruction manual and hint book. The game had a check where when you tried to go to the second floor, it would ask you like “what is the third word on the page with a picture of an axe in the corner in the instruction manual?”. Early DRM. If you got it wrong, I’m pretty sure you couldn’t proceed.
The hint book was also written in character from the point of view of someone who had gone before you. It was like an idiot noble and his long suffering servant. Great way of doing it.
Perhaps in isolation, but given that most people need a PC, would you rather:
a) buy a subpar PC for productivity and a console that’s going to be wasted money in a few years’ time, and you need to invest even more money on a new console (unless you never want to play new games again), and/or pour a bunch of money into scam subscription online services to get games (or even play them at all if they’re online)
b) buy a good PC with money you would have otherwise spent on the console, that will last effectively until the hardware dies, and even then you can upgrade it instead of buying a new PC
I agree the LLM and cryptobro insanity has screwed the GPU market, but in the long run even at the current prices PCs are still a better deal.
As I said I play games on PC so I would rather option B. I’m just saying that I don’t think PS is comparatively that expensive. If PCs are a better deal, it’s not by that much.
it is not as if used PCs with year old components aren’t cheaper than new ones. The console is significantly worse here because the subscription prices do not get reduced by anything because the hardware is older.
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I’ll never not be a PC gamer but calling PS overpriced at the moment is wild. Compared to the cost of PC components right now 5 or 6 hundred is not ridiculous. That’s cheaper than mid to high tier GPU alone.
You are forgetting that you have to pay to play online. Your $500 console is an $800 console if you use it for 5 years. You can build a roughly PS5 equivalent PC (RX 6700) for more like $650-700 which is less overall.
Plus it’s a computer so you can also use it for normal computer things, and the games themselves are generally much cheaper with a huge backlog and sales all the time.
I did forget that. Also that price point is awesome, I just dumped a ton on a fresh build. I didn’t want to minmax on it but it’s cool you can get it that low and still have that level of quality. Gotta hate NVIDIA.
Also don’t forget living at the whim of the manufacturer with regards to backwards compatibility.
My PC game library goes back literally 30+ years. (I think the oldest game I play occasionally is Eye of the Beholder, 1991. The original doom is still good and from 1993)
That has value.
This is an excellent point. The availability of games.
On PC, you can play pretty much every game ever, with varying degrees of legality, whether directly, or indirectly using an emulator, with the only exception to this being very modern titles on consoles which do not have an emulator for PC yet, or that are still locked in a bullshit exclusivity deal.
Meanwhile, PS/XBox is limited to whatever Sony/Microsoft deems appropriate to have on their console.
On console you live and die by someone else’s rules, on PC, the sky is the limit.
The Eye of the Beholder series really bring back childhood memories, even if i didn’t finish any of them - furthest i got was in EotB 2, and i after being stuck for a while in an area with those cultists i gave up. i didn’t even understand english back then lol
I only had the first one. I found it at a yard sale, and luckily they also had the instruction manual and hint book. The game had a check where when you tried to go to the second floor, it would ask you like “what is the third word on the page with a picture of an axe in the corner in the instruction manual?”. Early DRM. If you got it wrong, I’m pretty sure you couldn’t proceed.
The hint book was also written in character from the point of view of someone who had gone before you. It was like an idiot noble and his long suffering servant. Great way of doing it.
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Perhaps in isolation, but given that most people need a PC, would you rather:
I agree the LLM and cryptobro insanity has screwed the GPU market, but in the long run even at the current prices PCs are still a better deal.
As I said I play games on PC so I would rather option B. I’m just saying that I don’t think PS is comparatively that expensive. If PCs are a better deal, it’s not by that much.
and that’s accounting for a theoretical PS6, used PS5 rn is probably <$400.
Edit: typo
it is not as if used PCs with year old components aren’t cheaper than new ones. The console is significantly worse here because the subscription prices do not get reduced by anything because the hardware is older.