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      1 year ago

      Here’s your tinfoil hat. Cure for COVID, alien mind control, AND for intelligence.

      other experts like Dr. Malone

      A footnote reference in some early mRNA papers. And he wasn’t dismissed for his professional opinions, but for his embrace of full-on conspiracy theories. Then, he promoted hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin after we had conclusive information that it definitely was doing nothing but harm. He claimed without evidence (and known to be false) that the vaccines were causing AIDS!

      Show me, show me everyone who got AIDS from the COVID vaccine, please do.

      Also, both of your sources are from the CDC, another one of those institutions that has monetary (as well as other) incentives to lie to the public

      But the guy who ran a large pharmaceutical company that was pitching a blend of famotidine and hydroxychloroquine as a cure for COVID is A-O-K in your book and should be trusted without question?

      Understand. The people who are discredited over COVID are not discredited for holding controversial professional views, but for going batshit fucking insane across the board. And what few “controversial professional views” they held were so over the top we know have demonstration about their falsehood. There were 12.7 billion pfizer vaccines, but no increase in AIDS whatsoever.

      don’t try to present these numbers to me as if they mean anything

      I’m quickly learning that facts and truth don’t mean nearly as much as things that agree with your worldview. I see you going all alt-right in other threads. You’re just trolling, and looking like an ass. Do you enjoy embarrassing yourself?

      Natural immunity has been shown to be FAR better than VAX immunity… for whose these measures should definitely exist

      Since your measurement for a authoritative source is whether it agrees with you, IF you were wrong (you are), what kind of evidence would convince you?

      I have numbers from studies ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9828372/) that put vaccine immunity about equal to natural immunity (depending on the specific vaccine), except that boosters are safer than catching COVID again and hybrid immunity (if you do catch COVID and are also vaccinated before or after) is itself much more effective than either alone.

      More importantly (same ref), the vaccine is more effective than natural immunity for the severe cases of COVID that lead to hospitalization and death. A vaccinated populace will not crush the hospital and funerary systems like we experienced in 2020. An unvaccinated populace still can.

      Viruses are going to spread no matter what, we don’t get to live in bubbles where nothing bad ever happens to us

      Correct. Have you always been actively antivax? Got kids? Were they vaccined for smallpox? Measles? You know we basically eradicated most of those illnesses up until the antivax movement got reinvigorated by the COVID crazies?