• chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
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    4 months ago

    Again, Android problem, not Apple problem.

    Apple stated clearly they’re keen on working with GSM Consortium (who owns RCS and has more sway on carriers than Google does) on bringing E2EE to the masses.

    If Google’s reputation of finding new and exciting ways to sell targeted ads doesn’t precede them, then they might have a better chance of getting a first party solution like Apple does with iMessage. But alas, Apple is not responsible for Google’s business plan or public image, and that problem is Google’s to solve.

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      4 months ago

      who owns RCS and has more sway on carriers

      If that were true, RCS would have been implemented by carriers LONG ago like they were supposed to (the original spec was launched in 2008), well before imessage came out in 2011 and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

      But you know who actually does have a TON of sway with Carriers? Apple. You know who probably could have actually gotten them to implement RCS? Apple. Apple could have solved the RCS dilemma even before Google decided to do things themselves.

      Apple didn’t even need to do much, just drop the mere hint that if carriers didn’t start implementing RCS they might stop selling the iPhone through them and they would have bent over backwards to get it done.

      They didn’t because iMessage is just another tool to keep people locked into their ecosystem, and they’ve admitted as much. And any excuse of “Oh we wanted to work with the GSM consortium blah blah blah” is just that, an excuse for Apple fanboys like you to latch onto and parrot.

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        4 months ago

        Apple couldn’t get the carriers to do shit. They blocked eSIMs for years on iPhones, meanwhile the iPad eSIM implementation was happily allowed.

        Even up to the iPhone launch nobody wanted to collaborate with Apple(especially for the voicemail) except Cingular.

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        4 months ago

        They didn’t because it’s not their problem. Other platforms’ users have that problem; Apple users have iMessage.

        You buy a Windows phone, you buy a blackberry, you buy a flip phone, you’re using carrier messaging, or whatever app you can run on those platforms.

        You buy an Android and suddenly you feel entitled to demand Apple to go to bat for you on carrier messaging? That’s a very entitled hot take.

        Apple users have iMessage… amongst other third party chat apps that works fine across different platforms. Apple doesn’t have any obligations to go to bat for other platforms on carrier messaging that they already support.