Yes I am aware that they’re somehow supposed to reduce plastic waste because the cap can’t get lost … unless you cut it off, of course.

Yes I am also aware that there are people with disabilities (shaky hands, weak grip, etc.) who are thankful for these and actually like the design. Good for them, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way.

But personally, I hate these things with all the “first world problems” rage I can muster and go out of my way to rip / cut / twist them off on every single bottle I buy. I don’t like having the bottle cap directly in my face while drinking, or slipping in the way of the flow whenever I just want to pour milk, and on more than one occasion, I’ve actually cut my finger OR lip on these little sh*ts (not the same type as in the picture, but baldy-made longer “bands” that leave little plastic spikes on the cap and/or band).

No idea whether I should post this in the “unpopular opinion” section instead or if other people think the same, but to me, “mildly infuriating” describes them perfectly.

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    Just repeating my comment from the same topic a while back.

    So okay the bottle ones like this are fine

    It is these fuckers I have an issue with

    I swear if I ever see the person who designed the new milk cap I will make them choke on a fucking tetrapak.

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    Normally/averagely abled people - how is any configuration of the cap an issue?

    To even think about it takes more energy than any obvious solution (like holding the bonded cap whilst drinking or not ripping it off the seal ring in the non-bonded versions).

    Is it just because we are old and any change is annoying af?

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    I pick up street litter, and having picked up thousands of pounds, I have never felt that loose caps are a problem, let alone one that requires such a solution. The number of littered bottles, with or without a cap, is greater than the number of loose caps, and the amount of plastic in every bottle dwarfs the plastic in a cap. Fixing the cap to the bottle will do nothing to improve the recycling rate of plastic if entire bottles are already tossed anyway.

    I consider the idea of cap tethers as adversarial memetic warfare thrust upon us for some unknown ulterior purpose, possibly to make us hate the very idea of environmental consciousness. Same as paper straws. I like plastic bag bans though.

    As far as picking litter is concerned, I personally prefer finding bottles without a cap. At least those are empty, all liquid having evaporated after the bottle has spent several months in the bushes. The capped bottles are often half-full and are just nasty. (Who even pays for a bottle of drink and not drinks half of it anyway?)

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      The number of littered bottles, with or without a cap, is greater than the number of loose caps,

      That smells like survivorship bias. Your dataset is skewed by loose caps being way harder to find due to being smaller. It stands to reason that all those bottles without a cap you find will have also had their cap littered in the vast majority of cases.

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    I don’t mind them on soda, but during yoghurt is a mess. I have a beard and after drinking one of those I 8/10 times have a milky beard

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    Am I the only person who’s literally never seen such a thing exist in the wild

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    I honestly like them. Those that “stay open”, of course… They just stay out of the way, never get lost, and works pretty nice.

    At first I disliked them, but quickly found out they are actually… Very practical. Even not considering the “green” twist, why didn’t we adopted them before?

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      As an idiot who couldn’t remember where the fuck I put down the cap 5sec ago I really like them

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    This is some very short sighted thinking.

    Caps attached to the bottles is very important to the recycling industry, so they can be more cheaply and efficiently shipped to China and thrown into the sea.

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      Source on that? As far as I know China stopped importing plastic waste as they realized it was too expensive for the state as they are burdened with the externalities, i.e. cleanup.

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        I think a few years ago it was China. Now it will be anybody else who wants Western money and doesn’t mind burning plastic. Malaysia and Turkey seem popular for the UK. Not sure where the US sends it. It sure as shit isn’t recycled in any way that people would think of as recycling.

        I’ve no idea why we make plastic bottled drinks when aluminium cans exist.

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    This is one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. What even is the point? This is just so dumb. Maybe you could break off the cap?

    If you are worried about environmental impact ts they could just make them out of aluminum. We already have aluminum cans. Adding more plastic to the bottle will just create more waste.

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    They should make it so the cap doesn’t come off at all, so you have to buy a glass bottle with a metal cap that are both recyclable and won’t give you erectile disfunction.

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    The bottle cap folds out of the way. If you have it “in your face”, it sounds like a skill issue

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      Yes, this is exactly it.

      Is we just invented bottle caps for the fist time ever these exact same peeps would complain about it.

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      Pretty much. Whenever I see these type of posts I can only think of some cavemen failing to figure out the most simple contraption. Those caps are literally not a problem at all, assuming you’re not a complete moron.

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        Its often the little things like this that make it clear for me who is indeed a moron.
        Like oh, omg, that explains so much about that person.
        That poor thing.

        Now, I def need to not equate that with ‘capabilities’ of someone, even morons can brute-force achieve things I could never. They do it despite the handicap and I respect that.

        Dont want to discuss problems or brainstorm when them but respect nonetheless (them and their work).

        Most of us are in fact not what it’s commonly considered neurotypical (I beehive they are a smol but just the most vocal group). And just like with folk on introverts/depressed/ADHD/autism/etc spectrum it’s best to recognise, acknowledge, respect, and adapt to that (ie work and communicate a bit differently with each one of us, it doesn’t take all that much, and the learning curve is just so unbelievably good at the start).

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      I think the people complaining about this stuff fall into several categories. One of them is depicted well by that GIF. A second group is just upset about environmental regulations existing. There’s probably a third group out there with some kind of hypersensitivity for things touching their face. And maybe a fourth group who hates it when things change even if there are good reasons for it (can relate, was diagnosed as autistic).

      I feel bad for the people with hypersensitivities but the rest should just suck it up already. Maybe some bamboo or metal straws can help these folks get used to the new bottles? They’re available online for cheap.

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          Then you should tell that to the several brands that leave their caps sticking forward partially no matter how much you bend them backwards. I don’t care, but there are plenty of brands with much shittier bottle designs than the ones that stay out of your face like they should be designed to.

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        bamboo or metal straws

        Silicone. Silicone is the perfect straw material. Bamboo I guess works for disposable ones but I’ve never used one. Definitely too short for 1.5l bottles though.

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    Perhaps becuase you’ve only opened it half way, you need to lift it back over again and clip in under the rim.

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      this is not doable with all caps and even with those designed to do this it doesn’t work sometimes :(

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        Maybe they make them better here in Denmark. Plus we have “Pant” where you pay more for the bottles but get money back when you return them so it’s a “belt and braces” approach I guess!

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          Your pant is actually a deposit.
          And we have it in Germany as well called “Pfand”.

          Last time I bought something in such a bottle it was atrocious and stabbed me.

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            True, true it is just a deposit, but it certainly helps. Compared to England where I lived until I was 38 there are far fewer bottles littering the streets here in Denmark, although a lot of that can be put down to general public attitude probably. Never had a bottle stab me! Sounds like a case of bad quality control.