• randon31415@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Let us examine the couch movers analogy.

    A) If two people, A and B, who can lift 25 lb move a 50 lb couch, and A does not try 100%, whose fault is is that couch does not get moved?

    B) If A can lift 20 lb and B 30 lb, and A does not give 100%, whose fault is it then?

    C) If A can lift 30 lb and B 20 lb, and A does not give 100%, whose fault is it then?

    D) What if both can lift 20 lb?

    E) What if A can lift 100 lb and B can lift 20 lb?

    F) What if A can lift 20 lb and B can lift 100 lb?

    G) What if A and B can both lift 100 lb?

    I find it interesting that whose fault seemingly changes even if it is always assumed A is not giving 100% in all cases.

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      1 year ago

      I think where this analogy falls short is that in reality it gets assumed everyone can lift the same if they just would give 100 %. And therefore one person always gets the blame since they are seemingly not giving enough.

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        1 year ago

        There’s also a difference between fault, responsibility, and ability to do something. They’re interrelated, but they’re not equivalent. If A is able to move 100 pounds, but not obligated to do so and not trying then A is able, but not responsible and not at fault. If A can only lift 20 pounds, works as a mover and gives their best effort then A is unable to move the couch, responsible for moving the couch, but not at fault as they’ve done everything they can do to move the couch. I could go on but my point stands: it’s a weak, reductive metaphor.

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      1 year ago

      Seems more like one person who could lift the couch one handed is sitting on it yelling at the person who can’t lift it by themselves