• kitnaht@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    71
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues, but cool. I was merely rebutting the reply above mine.

    Maybe don’t defend someone implying that he’s not pushing the issue next time.

    • 9point6@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      39
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      So why hasn’t Biden?

      .

      Last I checked, the house of representatives doesn’t keep him from speaking out and pushing the issue.

      This you?

      I never made any claim that he wasn’t pushing the issues

      This too?

      • kitnaht@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        29
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        Actually NO! That “So why hasn’t Biden” IS NOT ME…

        For fucks sake. Can you people get a grip? Read the damn user names.

        • Eccitaze@yiffit.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          3 months ago

          And the second and third quotes, that were you?

          Take the goddamn L, man. You made a statement in ignorance, you were wrong, and you were given evidence showing you were wrong. Accept it, learn from your mistake, and be better in the future.

    • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      My comment was about restoring Roe and you said there’s nothing stopping him from speaking out about it. Which he is doing. So I’m not really sure what you were rebutting.

      • kitnaht@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        20
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        I was rebutting the reply saying that The House of Representatives was stopping him from speaking about it…holy crap can you guys not follow a comment thread correctly or something? I’m literally saying the same thing you are, but because some numb-nuts didn’t check the names in the threads and called me a troll I get dogpiled?

        You people are what’s wrong with Lemmy.

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          ·
          3 months ago

          You might want to try following the thread a little better if that’s what you think is happening here.

          I’m the person you originally responded to. I said Biden hasn’t restored Roe because of the house. I though it would be clear from context since he is speaking about it.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          If everyone misunderstood you then maybe the problem isn’t with them.

          If that is what you were trying to say you expressed yourself poorly. It’s possible to clarify your position without ranting at other people for your mistake.

          • kitnaht@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            8
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            If everyone made the mistake that the first reply wasn’t me, and it’s clearly visible - yet numerous people are attributing that original comment to me – that doesn’t mean I’m wrong because a mass of morons piled on.

            Your argument is an “Appeal to popularity”, and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when discussing things.

            • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              3 months ago

              I didn’t think you were the same person as the first reply, but it sure sounded like you were agreeing with them.

              Your argument is an “Appeal to popularity”, and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when discussing things.

              This comment is a “fallacy fallacy,” and is one of the fallacies people commonly make when they first learn about fallacies.
              If an argument is a fallacy that doesn’t mean the conclusion is wrong.
              Just because an argument takes the appearance of a fallacy doesn’t mean it is one.

              The situation is you made a post expressing a point of view, and it was interpreted as expressing the opposite. So either you expressed yourself poorly or those misunderstanding lack reading comprehension.

              The number of people who misunderstood your intent is relevant evidence for you expressing yourself poorly. So is the lack of other posts that have had a large number of people misunderstand.

              But let’s say your right, all these people are morons. Surprisingly, ranting “you’re all morons, stop being morons” is ineffective at helping morons understand or prevent them from being morons in the future. Clarifying your intention and adjusting how you communicate so the morons can understand you will fix both of these issues.

              Clarifying your intention and adjusting how you communicate is also an effective solution if the problem was indeed you expressing yourself poorly.

              So either way, your ranting about people being morons is further evidence that other people are not the problem here.

              • kitnaht@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                edit-2
                3 months ago

                Guess you missed the part where I first described HOW you were wrong, and then added on that the argument was ALSO a fallacy at the end. Pointing out the fallacy does not in itself make my argument the fallacy fallacy. But hey, you weren’t smart enough to understand any of that anyways. The fallacy fallacy is if I were saying you were wrong simply because of your argumentative fallacy. All I did was point it out at the end as a notation.

                Also, love the alts. Getting a rapid number of downvotes all at once like that, this deep in the thread means you’re either a: really pissed, or b: coordinating with others, it’s hilarious.

                • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  Guess you missed the part where I explained why it wasn’t a fallacy and was valid to the discussion.

                  And I only have 1 account dude, so either you have a persecution complex, or you are replying to so many people that brings them back to read the new posts and downvote your nonsense.

                  Either way, it once again suggests that you should consider that maybe the problem isn’t other people (you are the only common thread here), and maybe you need to take a break.

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          3 months ago

          Don’t worry too much about it. You’re being dogpiled because that’s what lemmy’s centrists do when they encounter someone who isn’t cheering loudly enough for Biden.

          • kitnaht@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            3 months ago

            Yeah, the people who moved over here generally seem to be way more extremist than normal. Reddit is bad because of the mods, for sure – But the same people who left reddit because it was ‘getting so bad’ just pull the same shit here.

    • blackbelt352@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      3 months ago

      Last I checked, being either disingenuous or a moron doesn’t prevent you from using Google to look up whether or not Biden failire in calling for the restoration of roe you’re implying is true.

      I mean It’s not like I’m claiming you’re a disingenuousmoron who can’t use Google, right?

      Funny how that works

    • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      3 months ago

      Alright, then you strongly implied Biden doesn’t speak out about that. There’s been many people on abortion related threads who falsely say or imply that, and I don’t know any other way someone could reasonably read your comment. It’s still there to place an edit afterwards if you’d like to clarify what you meant exactly.

      • kitnaht@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        15
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        I didn’t imply anything, the guy I replied to did! And here you are all jumping my ass about it. I don’t need to edit shit; you need to stop jumping to conclusions.

          • kitnaht@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            14
            ·
            edit-2
            3 months ago

            You’re the one who got it wrong, pal. I was saying the same thing, that Biden isn’t stopped by the house of representatives to speak out on the issue.

            Neither of the replies above that are me. So maybe stop attacking people.

      • kitnaht@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        That wasn’t me. The person below that said that Biden wasn’t pushing the issues because of the house of representatives; and I simply said that’s not stopping him…

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          No.

          I said Biden hasn’t restored Roe because of the house of representatives.