• Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    Text from the image:

    "Once more, let me remind you what fascism is. It need not wear a brown shirt or a green shirt.

    Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege."

    – Tommy Douglas

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      The NDP and Socialist parties created every single beneficial program in Canada. Canada wouldn’t be Canada without them. It would already be an American clone.

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    Sigh…

    And now his home province is one of the hotbeds of rural reactionary populism

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    The GOAT - Canadians credit Tommy for bringing universal healthcare to canada. And starting the NDP

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    I don’t think democracy needs to exist for fascism to exist.

    The ruling class enforcing the hierarchy accomplishes what Douglas describes.

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      He’s describing a very specific situation here. It also doesn’t require fashion choices like he said.

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      OG fascism united with aristocrats, but that system was already dying by the time they came around. It needed liberal democracy to fail so it could exploit its weaknesses. Royalty would never tolerate someone as vulgar as Hitler or Trump otherwise.

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    C’mon! Let’s get this shizz started, I’ve been workin’ out my smoke grenade kickin’ leg!

    Late edit, because I got triggered, apparently: I swear this would be the dream. Like, just to see something else, at this point friggin’ anything, other than what we’ve been seeing pretty much since humans first decided they wanted to have more than the other guy. I’m so fucking tired of seeing people stepping over other people’s throats just to get an inch higher up the ladder, a ladder which is purpose-built to serve the exact opposite effect by those who already own the grand majority of us.

    It’s not even for us at this point, speaking of those of us who are alive on this planet. I, for one, can feel that fucking ideological corruption still clinging to my moral fibre like a rancid mold no matter how much I try to scrub myself of it. God damn it, I wanted to have kids at one point, but I sure as shit won’t bring’em into this mess!

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        The academic concept of Elite Panic is actually more about how wealthy elites view mutal aid activities (communities helping themselves to survive - people helping people outside of state assistace programs) during times if crisis.

        It turns out that in multiple real world disaster examples elites see humans self-organising as a direct threat that needs to be combatted with state forces of organization - such as police and military intervention.

        This is because Elite Panic is really about a kind of fear that the poorer classes are going to use disasters as an excuse to kill the nearest rich person (rather than act with any sense of shared humanity or community in mind).

        In response Elites tend to demand that police/governments shoot “looters” and anyone that isn’t official basically. Elites demand forms of “Command and Control” fascism in disasters because they’re paranoid and fearful of poor people.

        That’s basically the academic concept/theory under the name “Elite Panic”. They get very twtchy, demanding, and needy during disasters, projecting their paranoia and spending most of the time demanding state action like an over indulged Karen.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_panic

        Behind the Bastards did an episode about it:

        https://youtu.be/_j9L2ppuANc

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    I’m trying to figure out JD Vance and as far as I can tell so far, he thinks he and the American people are oppressed by the oligarchy of the deep state, elite colleges, and the news media? Vance has turned this all around and thinks he is the people, that is trying to break free of their political and economic oppression, to usher in a libertarian utopia.

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      Just a regular people, Yale educated and launched into national politics by a billionaire patron just like you and me.