• leisesprecher@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    First of all the nitpicky stuff: Mac OS never used anything FreeBSD in the kernel. The kernel is XNU/mach, FreeBSD only supplies the user land. Pedantic, but we have a cliche to defend.

    Anyway, I think you got the update part backwards. Apple doesn’t update its side of the deal. MacOS ships with old bsd apps, simply because apple doesn’t care all that much about it.

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        1 month ago

        So there were parts of the kernel taken directly from FreeBSD

        That would also be true for Windows NT, and many other systems to be honest, because BSD is where TCP/IP support in Unix originated, it had the best implementation (or maybe not the best, but the de-facto reference one).

        and OSX was designed around it

        No, that’s not true, you are not paying attention.

        It has its userland (that’d be Unix tools like cp, ls and find) from some fossilized version of FreeBSD and not updated a lot since that. It’s not much. How do you think, would FreeBSD benefit from their fixes in ls? It’s the other way around, FreeBSD’s userland is much better.

        Their actual kernel (XNU) sources they, despite not being obligated, release from time to time.

        But say they used Linux, there still would be nothing to force them to release their drivers’ sources or their GUI’s sources (which are closed).

        You could have made your case with Sony (I’m still not sure if that’d be of much use), but not with Apple.