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    21 days ago

    Other places having different historical contexts that spills into different regions aren’t your thing, are they? (spare me your smug tone, please)

    The whole idea of Zionism arose from problems jewish europeans had in the 20th century. The “jewish question” arose in Europe, pretty much unconcerned of how long Jerusalem was war-torn. (Unless you want to go so far back that historical chaos-theory is in full swing and you can’t make any concrete statements about causal interactions, like "roman ci-il law led directly to russian progroms in the 19th century.)

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      21 days ago

      Seriously: why are you under the impression my initial comment or the message were only about Zionism?

      BTW, Zionism as we know it today was coined in the 19th century by Theodor Herzl. Maybe you should open up a book for once instead of repeating easy summaries.

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        21 days ago

        The OP was about the current conflict, which is a result of Zionism.

        I know about Herzl and mistyped. I can admit to an error. Can you be less smug?

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          21 days ago

          You have to explain to me how you took Zionism from the meme. From what I can gather it’s about the general conflict in the holy land.

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            21 days ago

            The current conflict is based on Zionism. Claiming that this conflict is a conyinuation of “1000 years” is Zionist propaganda.

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              21 days ago

              The current conflict isn’t based in Zionism. It’s a convenient tool, sure but it’s not the root. The crusades also weren’t based in Christian fundamentalism.

              Religion is a tool to oppress and manipulate masses, but it’s not the driving factor in political rational. Just look at evangelical megachirch preachers in the U.S., religion is just a tool to them to gain more wealth.

              The underlying issue is a struggle for power and control over a regions geostrategical resources. Has always been and will always be.

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                21 days ago

                What do you think Zionism is if not the appropriation of Judaism (a religion) in order to settler-colonize the middle east?

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                  20 days ago

                  So you agree with me? Unchanging underlying issues and the usage of varying ideological tools, Zionism as it was coined in the 19th century being the newest form, constitute the core of the Middle-East conflict and have so for millennia?