I have been trying for hours to figure this out. From a building tutorial to just trying to find prebuilt ones, I can’t seem to make it click.

For context I am trying to scrape books myself that I can’t seem to find elsewhere so I can use and post them for others.

The scraper tutorial

Hackernoon tutorial by Ethan Jarell

I initially tried to follow this but I kept having a “couldn’t find module” error. Since I have never touched python prior to this, I am unaware how to fix this and the help links are not exactly helpful. If there’s someone who could guide me through this tutorial that would be great.

Selenium

Selenium Homepage

I don’t really get what this is but I think its some sort of python pack and it tells me to download using the pip command but that doesn’t seem to work (syntax error). I don’t know how to manually add it in because, again, I have little idea of what I’m doing.

Scrapy

Scrapy Homepage

This one seemed like it’d be an out-of-box deal but not only does it need the pip command to download but it has like 5 other dependencies it needs to function which complicates it more for me.

I am not criticizing these wares, I am just asking for help and if someone could help with the simplification of it all or maybe even point me to an easier method that would be amazing!

Updates

  • Figured out that I am supposed to run the command for pip in the command prompt thing on my computer, not the python runner. py -m followed by the pip request

  • Got the Ethan Jarrell tutorial to work and managed to add in selenium, which made me realize that selenium isn’t really helpful with the project. rip xP

  • Spent a bunch of time trying to workshop the basic scraper to work with dynamic sites, unsuccessful

  • Online self-help doesn’t go in as much as I would like, probably due to the legal grey area

  • aMockTie@beehaw.orgEnglish
    4·
    6 hours ago

    Selenium is really more of a testing framework for frontend developers, and could theoretically be used for scraping, but that would be somewhat like buying a car based on the paint and not looking in detail under the hood.

    I can’t say I’ve ever worked with scrappy, but the tool I would use for web scraping with Python is BeautifulSoup. This tutorial seems decent enough, but you will need to understand basic web concepts like IDs, classes, tags, and tag attributes to get the most out of the tutorial: https://geekpython.medium.com/web-scraping-in-python-using-beautifulsoup-3207c038723b

    W3Schools will also be your friend if you have questions about HTML/CSS selectors in general: https://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp

    Understanding regular expressions and/or xpath would also be very helpful, but are probably best considered to be extra credit in most cases.

    I’ll try to respond if you have any issues or questions, but hopefully that gives you enough to get started.

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      6 hours ago

      The reason to use Selenium is if the website you want to scrape uses javascript in a way that inhibits getting content without a full browser environment. BeautifulSoup is just a parser, it can’t solve that problem.

      • aMockTie@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        5 hours ago

        In my experience, this scenario typically means that there is some sort of API (very likely undocumented) that is being used on the backend. That requires a bit more investigation and testing with browser developer tools, the JS Console, and often trial and error. But once you overcome that (admittedly very complex and technical) hurdle, you can almost always get away with just using the requests library at that point.

        I’ve had to do that kind of thing more times than I’d like to admit, but the juice is almost always worth the squeeze.

        • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          4 hours ago

          Well if I was doing it I probably would be trying to focus on browser emulation to avoid having to dig into those sorts of details. It sounds like OP is a beginner and needs a simple method.

          • aMockTie@beehaw.orgEnglish
            2·
            3 hours ago

            I agree that OP sounds like a beginner, and what you’ve suggested is likely the best approach for someone who is familiar with frontend tools and frameworks. Selenium (and admittedly BeautifulSoup) is probably too low level for this particular user, but that doesn’t mean they can’t still learn some fundamentals while solving this problem without resorting to something as heavy and complicated as background browser emulation and rendering. I could be wrong though.

      • Noah@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        This was the original plan but it doesn’t work as well for this on ‘dynamic’ websites

        • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          5 hours ago

          IIRC it should be able to be made to work since it does everything a browser does, found this search result, though it has been a while since I used it myself at all. Another thing you might try that has worked for me is iMacros, that’s a little simpler and more basic than Selenium but should work for what you say you want to do.

    • Noah@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      1·
      5 hours ago

      My current script uses bs4 and request imports. It also has the selenium import for geckodrive but I am considering just removing that feature lol