• Elric@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So it justifies murdering children. Got it. We know where you stand!

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      1 year ago

      Israel just murdered 200 children in 3 days, so far. Was that justified?

      Oh, but they’re Palestinian so they don’t count. Otherwise people like you would have lost their minds decades ago.

      When the Hamas murders children it’s terrorism, it’s an atrocity, it’s inhuman (and I agree).

      When the IDF murders children it’s Tuesday.

      It’s on the news every day. And people like you couldn’t care less.

      Keep chewing on that nice Zionist propaganda. I choose humanity.

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        1 year ago

        Why can’t we condemn both?

        Hamas committed atrocities and Israel has responded with atrocities. That doesn’t make calling Hamas “freedom fighters” in this context any less deplorable.

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          1 year ago

          I don’t think she was refering to Hamas as freedom fighters. Everybody was just eager to put it in her mouth (eh).

          Answering your question, yes, we can condemn them both. But in different ways.

          Israel “created” Hamas. You can only push a people so far. The oppression and humiliation, generation after generation is bound to create extreme hate. And that’s how shit like Hamas sprouts. Israel has been breeding that hate for decades.

          But…Hamas actions are still their own. I can live in a world with Israel if Israel changes. But Hamas has to go. But something else will appear if Israel keeps pushing on the Palestinians. Hamas is a symptom.

          The cycle of violence has to be broken. And the one that has the upper hand has to do it to be effective. The 2 state solution is dead. It’s ironic that these 2 peoples can’t live with each other but at the same time they need each other.

          Palestine is too fractured to thrive without Israel. Israel, while it might not seem so, needs to make good with Palestine to consolidate its place in the region. Without that peace Israel is doomed on the long term. When the chips are down and the US is not there to help they will find themselves completely isolated surrounded by hostile countries. And that Israel cannot survive.