• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    Having the Baby.

    The budding love story is a go to for writers. Everyone loves it, and makes you feel emotions when they finally get together. Problem is, it has a natural path.

    2 to 3 seasons to get together. 1 season of new bliss, 1 season of ups and downs, ending with a marriage proposal. 1 season of engagement ending in wedding. 1 season of new marriage stuff. Now what?

    Married couples are boring. So what do we do now? Now it’s time for the baby.

    And babies are horrible on TV. People watch TV to escape reality, not hear a screaming child. So the dream couple has a baby and it’s so tiring and so much work, but suddenly the show starts focusing on other characters, and then suddenly you know it’s over.

    The office was famous for this one. Everyone loves Jim and Pam, until the wedding, then who cares. They tried to force those feelings again with Andy and Erin, but you just can’t.

    Parks and rec luckily took a different route with Andy and April, but you can tell they were teetering on the edge, and in the final season everyone had kids anyway.

    HIMYM had a worse approach because it wasn’t that Ted was on the path, but rather Lily and Marshall already were and so kids came in earlier, and again change the entire show.

    The list goes on, it is an official trope now

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      29 days ago

      A similar red flag, introducing a new, younger “cute” kid character because the previous cute kids aged out of the category.

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      Parenting portrayal in HIMYM was natalist propaganda, Lily and Marshall’s kid was maintenance free and they continued to live their old life.

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      I think Modern Family was the exception to this, at least with Mitchell & Cam. Gloria getting pregnant just had vibes of Married with Children when Peggy got pregnant and it felt like the start of the end.

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        Married with Children’s pregnancy story arc was driven by the Katey Sagal’s real life pregnancy. She unfortunately had a miscarriage after it had been written into the show, so the writers decided to bail on it by making it all a dream. It comes across as sloppy writing, but it was probably the most compassionate way to handle it.

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        It worked with Modern Family because the show’s entire premise was about Families and when that’s the show’s premise then the reverse is true, Families without children are boring lol

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    When netflix picks it up and adds new seasons (using untalented writers instead of the ones that made the show good)

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    Clip Show! Nothing says “We’re out of ideas” like a rehash of the currently available greatest hits.

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      Community had clips from “previous episodes” that never existed in their bottle episode.

      Most of the time I hate clip shows, but that time was okay.

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        Community was great at simultaneously lampshading, satirizing, and paying homage all at the same time. Abed was the perfect vehicle for that sort of meta-self-referential nihilism. Plus the entire cast was lightning in a bottle.

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      Clip shows are usually about “we didn’t adequately budget and need to make an episode using only one set and one day of shooting.”

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    “We want to appeal to a wider audience that’s not the typical X fan”.

    It’s usually code for “stakeholders/execs want infinite growth, and we are too burnt out/creatively bankrupt to fight back. So, enjoy the change to another cookie cutter slop content”.

    Some shows even start out there already. Massive red flag.

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      I would say that most shows start out there already these days. There’s a whole bunch of boxes that have to be ticked off, instead of just creating an organic storyline with realistic and natural groups of people.

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        “We are proud that not a single person in the production team has ever seen anything from this beloved IP we are adapting.”

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      I wish they did like in the 1940s… Instead, current directors cannot shoot proper B&W and just rely on hackneyed gimmicks (I mean stuff like using the overly contrasted shade of a Venetian blind, smoke going through a ray of light, …). There is always too much white and too much black, which kills the range in between, unlike old movies and TV shows which are made of shades of grey where everything can be seen clearly; settings are not adapted either; anyway they have no idea of what they are shooting, they simply shoot in colour and then remove colours in post-processing like they do usually when they apply their stupid colour filter (blue-brown = Scandinavian police drama, lovat green = Germany, yellow = Mediterranean, blue = techno-thriller, etc.). Any low-rated chain-produced family entertainment TV series from the 50s and 60s, filmed by a random director from back then, exhibits a better B&W picture than those modern arty attempts.

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    Celebrity appearances.

    Not to say the show goes downhill because of it. But I feel as if it’s often used as a crutch to attract more viewers.

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    Unnecessary cameos by guest stars that completely pull you out of the narrative. Bonus points if it’s Ed Sheeran.

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    When one or more of the original main character actors leave the show. They’ll either introduce new characters to replace the originals or refocus the show on some of the existing, less-important ones. Sometimes a show can make it work, and occasionally you end up with something better, but it usually indicates the show has one, maybe two seasons of life left.

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    Starting to answer backstory questions no one really wanted to know. For example, I knew Seinfeld was running out the clock as soon as they gave Kramer a first name.

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    Romance between two characters that seems to come out of nowhere because the main characters have already gotten together.

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    Original writer/creator/actor leaves the show. There can be a lot of reasons why they leave, and sometimes it’s a really good reason, but the show almost always suffers.

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            That sounds like cope. I remember the first couple of episodes of the season getting criticized heavily on Reddit, for reasons that had nothing to do with the ‘changing of the guard’, after I also found myself bored watching same.

            Maybe it improved after that, but I wouldn’t know, I moved on.