NEW YORK, Dec 11 (Reuters) - In the days since Luigi Mangione was charged with murder for gunning down a top health insurance executive, more than a thousand donations have poured into an online fundraiser for his legal defense, with messages supporting him and even celebrating the crime.
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Most of the messages on the crowd-sourced fundraising site GiveSendGo reflect a deep frustration shared by many Americans over the U.S. healthcare system - where some treatments and reimbursements can be denied to patients depending on their insurance coverage - as well as broader anger over rising income inequality and soaring executive pay.
Most of the developed world outside of America.
It happens to everyone, once a doctor prescribed a medicine off-label and my Krankenkasse (german non-profit health insurance) refused to cover all of it. I had to pay 10 euros out of my own pocket.The pharmacist was super apologetic about the whole thing. /s
As an American living in Germany I find it hilarious how Germans complain about the smallest cost of their prescriptions. I got some basic blood work done before my insurance kicked in and the doctor was going over the cost like I was going to flip my shit hearing it. I told him I was American and laughed. €25 for blood work and zero cost for just speaking to you? Sign me the fuck up. I paid $100 for a consultation about sinus infection that lasted 5 minutes at a general practice i Washington DC. You don’t scare me!
That’s because the costs are negotiated centrally, so healthcare is relatively cheap even if you have to pay for it. Some European countries are even having problems because some Americans found out that it’s often much cheaper to pay for a plane ticket, a nice hotel, and the treatment costs fully out of their own pocket in Europe than having the same treatment in the US even with insurance.
I have a friend who’s contemplating this. They can fly over as a couple and have a few weeks of vacation, get the operation and still have money left.
I take adhd medicine in Germany that I also took in the US. In the US, I had to pay $50 for a doctor’s appointment, ~$200 for a drug test to make sure I was taking it and only it, and then $220 for one month of the generic brand. Then, when I hit my deductible in about June, the drug test was free, my appointment was $30, and the medication was $50. For this privilege, I paid $13k/year in premiums. In Germany, I get insurance for about €140/month while working part time at a bakery, then all my required appointments are free, no drug test, and I get two months of the brand name medication for under €16.
I was making over $60k/year in the US, not living in a major city. I now earn a few euros more than minimum wage at a part time job in Germany. Things are significantly more affordable here.
One of the most surreal experiences in my life was riding in an ambulance in Norway and having the EMT sheepishly explain that while the ambulance ride was free, the ER visit was going to come with a bill. He was equal parts embarrassed and indignant about it. The bill was the equivalent of $25.
Of course health care in Germany is magnitudes better than in the USA. But there are some weird exceptions to coverage. For example everything around teeth and some things regarding eye sight and allergies. Apparently not having my eyes and nose swollen shut all the time is a life style choice which costs me ~50 bucks a month. At least they think I should be able to breathe which only costs me ~5 bucks every 4 months (north of 300 without coverage).
Its still crazy that allergie treatment isn’t considered essential care. There were times my allergies were debilitating. The most sick I got in the last 6 months was spending a couple hours with a cat. I genuinely couldn’t work for days, and I was taking my allergy meds the whole time…
I was talking to a friend of mine in Canada about this recently. He has some minor gripes, but nothing like what I have. I told them my recent ER visit approached $15k in charges and they were aghast. They couldn’t even comprehend it. Like, their brain just broke and shut off. It made no sense to them.
It shouldn’t make sense to us, either. We should have a similar reaction, but I think we’ve been slowly boiled so long that we don’t.
Time to take it back.
I think the healthcare system in my part of Canada has really been going to shit. ER wait times are ridiculous but I think a large part is from a lack of family doctors.
Instead of the general practitioners seeing people, people are just going to the ER for the most basic thing, but we don’t really have another choice. But I still haven’t experienced any issues with insurance coverage.