That’s…incredibly reductive. If there were a new machine that whipped slaves automatically so the landowner didn’t have to, would the progressive be for it because it was a technological advancement?
You can’t honestly believe that technological advancements, no matter their use, no matter their owners, no matter who they will hurt, and no matter how quickly it’ll destroy the climate are supported by leftists because they’re progressive.
In the slave-whipping machine example, it would’ve been technology that solidified the existing paradigm without questioning the underlying problems with the system. “Think of all the art the white man can create now that he won’t while away his day overseeing his slaves! Think about how regressive that is!” Exactly like AI. This is a tool that, IN AN ONGOING CLIMATE EMERGENCY, is sucking up the limited available fresh water, using exponential amounts of energy, and is currently in the hands of the ruling class.
Because it can also…what? Make pictures and videos and write things so humans don’t have to use their own creativity? So it can finally eliminate any job that that people actually want to do to find some way to utilize creativity in a disgustingly repressive capitalist society? That’s why we have to accept any technological advancement?
Look at all of the other more recent tech advancements. Cellphone, email, internet, etc. They definitely offer a lot of democratizing tools and creative tools. But…it brought the rise of tech monopolies, unlimited surveillance, new ways to accumulate data to sell. It also upped productivity drastically, and thus profits.
We are living in a world increasingly dominated by tech and it’s all in the hands of the ruling class—they’ve literally turned us and out data into products. It is not “conservative” to say these things are bad. It’s not “conservative” to see the pattern we’ve been following with these tech advancements in the age of tech megacorps, and say “I see where this is going and it’s not great.”
It’s fucking stupid to NOT recognize the pattern and say “but this time it’s gonna be awesome!”
Ridiculous example not even close to AI or what I was arguing. I made no such argument implying progressives support everything new, so fuck right off with this nonsense. AI can absolutely be positive if used for the benefit of all, you know it or you’re a liar.
You can’t honestly believe that technological advancements, no matter their use, no matter their owners, no matter who they will hurt, and no matter how quickly it’ll destroy the climate
Never said or implied anything close to that. You’re in fucking fantasy land.
IN AN ONGOING CLIMATE EMERGENCY
Arguably the power of AI if used correctly could help with this in many ways. Have it help accelerate battery tech, help with nuclear power plants, more efficient solar panels, etc.
Look at all of the other more recent tech advancements
upped productivity drastically, and thus profits
These benefits should be ours, for everyone not just the elite. This is what I’m arguing.
We are living in a world increasingly dominated by tech and it’s all in the hands of the ruling class—they’ve literally turned us and out data into products. It is not “conservative” to say these things are bad
It is though. What do you want to do? Be a hippy living in the forest eating berries? You seem to just have a hatred for anything tech. I want all the tech for the benefit of everyone, not a billionaire elite. Your solution to “just don’t do it” because we don’t have control is stupid. You are a pussy. We need to take control and use it for the benefit of all.
My original comment was simple and still stands. You are making the regressive argument: its got problems therefore don’t do it. I’m arguing we should absolutely do it because it has many amazing implications and possibilities that can benefit everyone.
That’s…incredibly reductive. If there were a new machine that whipped slaves automatically so the landowner didn’t have to, would the progressive be for it because it was a technological advancement?
You can’t honestly believe that technological advancements, no matter their use, no matter their owners, no matter who they will hurt, and no matter how quickly it’ll destroy the climate are supported by leftists because they’re progressive.
In the slave-whipping machine example, it would’ve been technology that solidified the existing paradigm without questioning the underlying problems with the system. “Think of all the art the white man can create now that he won’t while away his day overseeing his slaves! Think about how regressive that is!” Exactly like AI. This is a tool that, IN AN ONGOING CLIMATE EMERGENCY, is sucking up the limited available fresh water, using exponential amounts of energy, and is currently in the hands of the ruling class.
Because it can also…what? Make pictures and videos and write things so humans don’t have to use their own creativity? So it can finally eliminate any job that that people actually want to do to find some way to utilize creativity in a disgustingly repressive capitalist society? That’s why we have to accept any technological advancement?
Look at all of the other more recent tech advancements. Cellphone, email, internet, etc. They definitely offer a lot of democratizing tools and creative tools. But…it brought the rise of tech monopolies, unlimited surveillance, new ways to accumulate data to sell. It also upped productivity drastically, and thus profits.
We are living in a world increasingly dominated by tech and it’s all in the hands of the ruling class—they’ve literally turned us and out data into products. It is not “conservative” to say these things are bad. It’s not “conservative” to see the pattern we’ve been following with these tech advancements in the age of tech megacorps, and say “I see where this is going and it’s not great.”
It’s fucking stupid to NOT recognize the pattern and say “but this time it’s gonna be awesome!”
You’re confused, but whatever.
Ridiculous example not even close to AI or what I was arguing. I made no such argument implying progressives support everything new, so fuck right off with this nonsense. AI can absolutely be positive if used for the benefit of all, you know it or you’re a liar.
Never said or implied anything close to that. You’re in fucking fantasy land.
Arguably the power of AI if used correctly could help with this in many ways. Have it help accelerate battery tech, help with nuclear power plants, more efficient solar panels, etc.
These benefits should be ours, for everyone not just the elite. This is what I’m arguing.
It is though. What do you want to do? Be a hippy living in the forest eating berries? You seem to just have a hatred for anything tech. I want all the tech for the benefit of everyone, not a billionaire elite. Your solution to “just don’t do it” because we don’t have control is stupid. You are a pussy. We need to take control and use it for the benefit of all.
My original comment was simple and still stands. You are making the regressive argument: its got problems therefore don’t do it. I’m arguing we should absolutely do it because it has many amazing implications and possibilities that can benefit everyone.