Completely unrelated, but as I see you here, could you have a look at this thread? Looking for Canadian perspective: https://lemmy.ca/post/35100507/13832375
Yeah sure. I think the removed commentor is being extremely pedantic in their reasoning to dismiss this person as “a nobody”. It’s very nuanced:
They are correct but only in a technical sense: the part(ies) controlling the Parliament form the Government, 2nd place party (Conservatives) is the Official Opposition, the others are Recognized Parties within the legislature. However, the Liberals have been running a minority government with a plurality but not a majority of seats. And until September 2024, the NDP, which meant that Charlie Angus and the MPs in that caucus were helping keep the Liberal government intact in exchange for legislation that were in the NDP’s (more left wing) interests.
In the international sense, Parliament is our legislative branch of a government, “Government” is the executive and our court system is the judicial branch.
Let me get extremely pedantic here: is MP Angus part of the Government (aka the federal government) in official Canadian terms? No. To say MP Angus is part of the government (in an international sense, without using specific terms like federal government or Government of Canada) is perfectly acceptable, understood fine in Canada as much as elsewhere. You’ll notice the wiki page on it is very careful to differentiate the terms.
Anyway, the thread linked is not the place to school people on these technicalities, and the user’s use of this to reach the conclusion suggesting MP Angus and the NDP are nobodies is false and misleading. The distinction or stretch of logic specifically is that “not part of the government” ≠ “a nobody in the legislature” when the user themselves were implicitly conflating the two in the beginning.
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Completely unrelated, but as I see you here, could you have a look at this thread? Looking for Canadian perspective: https://lemmy.ca/post/35100507/13832375
Yeah sure. I think the removed commentor is being extremely pedantic in their reasoning to dismiss this person as “a nobody”. It’s very nuanced:
They are correct but only in a technical sense: the part(ies) controlling the Parliament form the Government, 2nd place party (Conservatives) is the Official Opposition, the others are Recognized Parties within the legislature. However, the Liberals have been running a minority government with a plurality but not a majority of seats. And until September 2024, the NDP, which meant that Charlie Angus and the MPs in that caucus were helping keep the Liberal government intact in exchange for legislation that were in the NDP’s (more left wing) interests.
In the international sense, Parliament is our legislative branch of a government, “Government” is the executive and our court system is the judicial branch.
Let me get extremely pedantic here: is MP Angus part of the Government (aka the federal government) in official Canadian terms? No. To say MP Angus is part of the government (in an international sense, without using specific terms like federal government or Government of Canada) is perfectly acceptable, understood fine in Canada as much as elsewhere. You’ll notice the wiki page on it is very careful to differentiate the terms.
Anyway, the thread linked is not the place to school people on these technicalities, and the user’s use of this to reach the conclusion suggesting MP Angus and the NDP are nobodies is false and misleading. The distinction or stretch of logic specifically is that “not part of the government” ≠ “a nobody in the legislature” when the user themselves were implicitly conflating the two in the beginning.
Thank you!