• michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    There isn’t an available bird flu vaccine that we could manufacture fast enough to make it available even if we started right now. This is assuming that they let us have it instead of telling us to tough it out and take some vitamin C.

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        23 hours ago

        You didn’t even read that, did you?

        H5N1 continually mutates, meaning vaccines based on current samples of avian H5N1 cannot be depended upon to work in the case of a future pandemic of H5N1. While there can be some cross-protection against related flu strains, the best protection would be from a vaccine specifically produced for any future pandemic flu virus strain. Daniel R. Lucey, co-director of the Biohazardous Threats and Emerging Diseases graduate program at Georgetown University, has made this point, “There is no H5N1 pandemic so there can be no pandemic vaccine.”[34] However, “pre-pandemic vaccines” have been created; are being refined and tested; and do have some promise both in furthering research and preparedness for the next pandemic.[35] Vaccine manufacturing companies are being funded to increase flexible capacity so that if a pandemic vaccine is needed, facilities will be available for rapid production of large amounts of a vaccine specific to a new pandemic strain.[36]

        There is no guarantee that any “pre-pandemic” vaccines will work.

        But then, you think you can vaccinate against bacteria…

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            21 hours ago

            No. No you can’t. Again, you really do not understand how any of this works. Pneumonia isn’t even a cause, it’s a symptom. I can be caused by fungi, viruses or bacteria. Saying you can vaccinate against pneumonia is like saying you can vaccinate against a runny nose. That’s literally not how anything works.

            But please do keep digging.

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                9 hours ago

                I know you’re pretending that’s the only cause of pneumonia, but you’re wrong. You are listing a common cause of the symptom, far from the only cause.

                Pneumonia is inflammation and fluid in your lungs caused by a bacterial, viral or fungal infection. It makes it difficult to breathe and can cause a fever and cough with yellow, green or bloody mucus. The flu, COVID-19 and pneumococcal disease are common causes of pneumonia. Treatment depends on the cause and severity of pneumonia.

                https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/4471-pneumonia

                Let me guess, you know better than they do.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Jesus fucking christ.

                  Judt admit you were wrong about not being able to vaccinate against bacterial diseases.

                  Pneumonococcal vaccine vacinates against a bacteria responsible for the vast majority of pneumonia cases. Hence, it’s name.

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                    9 hours ago

                    Sure, as soon as you admit you were wrong about pneumonia. Then we can both admit wrongess. But I doubt you will somehow.