the proposal is from a red-hat team member and is proposing addition of “privacy-respecting” telemetry. here’s the link to the hyperkitty thread

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    Jesus bellydancing Christ people, read beyond the title of the post for once. This is good.

    This will enable results that aren’t biased by the few users who find the option to opt-in (when it’s not presented front and center) or actively answer to surveys.

    They are taking as much care as possible with their words to make it clear that THEY DO NOT WANT TO TRACK YOU OR ABUSE YOUR DATA, it’s just what’s necessary for studies to better understand the users’ needs.

    • You will have the chance to disable it front and center during the setup process;
    • No data will be sent before an active confirmation from the user during the setup process;
    • You will be able to fetch the data at any point to check what’s being collected
    • They are reaching out to the community for guidance on what type of data we find acceptable or not
    • You can have an active participation on the building of this tool

    And specially this, for the OH GOD, ITS THE END OF THE LINOX DESKTOP among you:

    IT’S A PROPOSAL, IT’S NOT BEING ACTIVELY DEVELOPED YET!

    Not only there’s no reason to overreact, this could be the start of something beautiful for the Linux desktop, where the users not only actively participate but actively control their data

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      dude, i could not have been more simplistic with the title, and added both the threads for the post. yes, people are gonna get mad, that’s what a general thread on the internet is. if you want actual dev discussions, go to the linked threads. if i tried to be more like, “guys don’t harass the devs, they’re definitely not in the wrong here”, you know what that would’ve led to, and i just tried to avoid that. there are plenty of projects that don’t need or use telemetry for development, including linux (i think, i’m pretty sure). it’s great that they’re being honest and open about it, but this coming just after red hat issue is what prompted me to start these threads. so yeah, sorry if this is frustrating for you, but this thread is not a ragebait, and i apologize if this does seem like one…

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        No need to apologize, I’m not mad at you, I found this thread while checking if someone had already posted it before doing so myself.

        That’s the worst part, to be honest, it’s not even ragebait yet people just take everything at face value and start to spread FUD.

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      And they say Lemmy will not become Reddit. Pfft. The culture of reading only the headline and immediately take the rage bait is already seeping in.

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        That culture is human. If there are going to be humans on Lemmy, then you’re going to get the exact same pros and cons.

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        Right? People are reading this as BIG CORPO DOES BAD DECISION and ignore the fact that they can (and should) go to the forum to actively discuss the proposal with the people proposing it.

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      i thought the whole idea was to be the only one who is using your computer. it doesnt matter if they are taking data that cant be used to identify you personally, the road to hell is made with good intentions. and also, i agree that by using telemetry, great insights can help the devs develop a better Linux desktop, but linux is more about the freedom to be let alone if you want to be left alone.

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        and how exactly does having telemetry (that can be easily turned off at any time) impedes your freedom to be left alone?

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          easy for who? why not use it in the sense of ‘easily turned on.’ and then make it as easy as possible for people to turn it on because it is in the devs and sponsors’ best interest, but making an easy-to-turn-off telemetry is a conflict of interest for them.