The new ‘countryside sounds and smells law’ aims to give more protection to existing farms from newly arrived residents in the area.

  • IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    For those who don’t know: on the island of Maui- known for it’s lush green central valley of sugar cane waving in the breeze- a bunch of real esnake developers began complaining about their fake paradise getting covered in ash from the nighttime controlled burns by the sugar cane company (about 160 years old)…see, they had built right in the path of the wind.

    Long story short, they bribed the officials and won. Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

    Maui is going to die.

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      11 months ago

      This is ludicrously incorrect. Everything is back to being green now, unless it was a desert zone to begin with.

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          11 months ago

          Now Maui is a brown, unattractive desert with uncontrolled wildfires instead of controlled fires with irrigation sprinklers.

          Maui is going to die.

          If you ended that reply by commenting on the central valley alone, you might have a valid point, but you imply all of Maui is brown and going to die. That is incorrect. I am also on this island and can see it myself.

          edit: it also leaves out how most residents also wanted the cane burning and plowing to stop because it was a health problem, and how companies are slowly replanting that land with various crops that don’t cause the same type of issues, but are still in early stages.

          It also implies that there’s only one place affected by the ashfall and dust by being downwind, which is incorrect when people in Kihei, Wailuku and Paia can be affected (as experienced personally by myself in all three places), which are all in entirely different directions. The wind doesn’t always blow one way here.

          edit2: it’s also weird that this reply was to an article about roosters, but instead of commenting on that problem here, you went with something completely unrelated.

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              11 months ago

              LOL, whatever dude, the loss of Lahaina should not be underrepresented, but it was not the only primary attraction. As someone who woke up with breathing issues from cane smoke while living in Kihei, Wailuku, and Paia, it was a problem for everyone within wind’s distance. Anyone, including yourself, who says otherwise is just fucking ignorant. And any such law that we may need to have in place is totally irrelevant to the cane fields and all the reasons that whole operation was stopped. The only people legitimately sad about it were cane field workers, which lasted until they got different jobs. While we live on the same rock, we clearly live in different realities.

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                  11 months ago

                  If you can’t breathe here then you should move.

                  Not a problem now, because the burning has stopped, dumbass.

                  You talk about how something was the biggest local news item, yet apparently totally ignored the years of complaints from locals and long-term residents suffering from various forms of smoke-induced asthma, emphysema, etc… which is why it’s ridiculous that people here are still giving older folks wearing masks a hard time, because many of them were wearing masks during burning seasons to help with the effects before the pandemic even happened.

                  Now we have even more dust and fires since there’s no irrigation system to control it.

                  LOL, no, that’s not true either. The main places we had uncontrolled fires didn’t have irrigation to begin with, with exception of the one downhill from Pukalani headed towards Maui Meadows (edit: actually, no, the area approaching Maui Meadows never had irrigation either), but please, do point out where the irrigation systems were in Kula, Olinda, and over on the west side so I can go see where that used to be. All the other fires we’ve had recently are the pedestrian variety probably caused by cigarettes being thrown out like usual, and they were all quickly brought under control. I get the alerts for emergencies and all clears just like everyone else here.

                  This nonsense may go over with people who don’t live here, but I do live here.

                  And don’t put “maui” in your screen name or emails; that’s carpetbagger shit right there.

                  No, you can get over it. If it’s a problem for you, that’s just too bad.

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                    11 months ago

                    Thank you for being the perfect demonstration of the problem. All the complaints you mentioned came from new residents in new housing projects. VOG- from volcanoes- has been a respiratory issue here when the trades died more than cane burns have. Havent seen much of that recently.