Riiiiiight… they just hid him from you for years for shits and giggles. Never mind the fact that all the funding and intelligence support for the 9/11 operation came from Saudi Arabia - yet another country you failed to invade.
Our failure to wipe Saudi Arabia off the map when we had an excuse to do so is one that I regret every day, but the fact of the matter is that the Taliban were harboring Al-Qaeda and refusing to cooperate in our search for them while Pakistan wasn’t. Also, America’s actions in the Middle East make sense when you remember that the economy would collapse if they decided to stop selling us fossil fuels. Unfortunate and scummy, yes, but I’d avoid pissing off my fuel source as well.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Talking about evidence… will you be taking long providing some for those “tribalistic” genes you were bragging about a few replies ago?
Studies have found that heritability affects everything from extroversion/introversion, disgust response, how compassionate someone is, how likely someone is to experience certain types of mental illness, testosterone and estrogen levels, and even whether someone is likely to be politically leftist or politically right wing, and when we selectively breed animals, we can get animals with completely different temperaments, but the idea that natural selection might’ve caused humans to have an affinity for the tribes we’ve been living in for the past few million years? Complete blasphemy, right?
Actually, scratch that, just look at human behavior and how people living in the same country and in the same economic class will find reasons to dislike eachother even in countries where ethnic tension is suppressed. Serbs, Bosniaks, and Croats lived in the same regions, were all equally poor, speak the same language, are genetically almost exactly the same, and share the vast majority of their culture with eachother, and as soon as Tito died and stopped suppressing tensions between them, they started hating on eachother for basically no reason at all and then started a war over it. There are many such cases in history where people will hate eachother for almost no reason, especially during times of scarcity or hardship. As it turns out, most people will choose their tribe over their economic class when the going gets rough.
Also, genetics is complicated as hell and sometimes simple observation of behavior has to do. You don’t expect the same burden of proof when you assume that humans are all altruistic, as well, since you treat that like an article of faith for a religion.
Why? Because all the “Great White Hope”-wannabes lining up in the GOP are so cartoonishly loopy that even Heinrich Himmler himself would be embarrassed to be in the same room as them?
I have no idea what you’re talking about nor do I give a shit, I like Joe Biden’s policies better than the Republicans and think he’s more likely to win than people who’d do better than him. Simple as.
Our failure to wipe Saudi Arabia off the map when we had an excuse to do so is one that I regret every day
Oh… you “regret” not murdering more brown people to satify your tiny little fascist hardon, eh? In Saudi Arabia? The Saudi Arabia that is the product of US foreign policy? The Saudi Arabia that only exists as a client state of the US? That Saudi Arabia?
Studies have found
Proof for these (alleged) “tribal” genes, fascism-boi - you do know what actual proof is, don’t you?
I have no idea what you’re talking about
Oh, of course you don’t, of course you don’t… you just get sexually aroused at the idea of committing genocide against brown people - it’s not that you’re a rabid white supremacist at all, eh?
Oh… you “regret” not murdering more brown people to satify your tiny little fascist hardon, eh? In Saudi Arabia? The Saudi Arabia that is the product of US foreign policy? The Saudi Arabia that only exists as a client state of the US? That Saudi Arabia?
Saudi Arabia exists because the British fucked over the Sharif of Mecca and he got conquered by the Wahhabis. The reason I want them wiped off the map is because of that aforementioned Wahhabism, and yes, being friends with them was a mistake on America’s part, so what, every country does bad things
Proof for these (alleged) “tribal” genes, fascism-boi - you do know what actual proof is, don’t you?
First of all, I don’t think you know what fascism is, second of all, the science of genetics is not advanced enough for us to narrow down the thousands of genes that affect someone’s personality. If you’re not able to draw conclusions from observing human behavior, I don’t know what to tell you.
Oh, of course you don’t, of course you don’t… you just get sexually aroused at the idea of committing genocide against brown people - it’s not that you’re a rabid white supremacist at all, eh?
Uh, nah, I think you’re projecting since you watch too much porn. I said the moral superiority of the west makes my dick hard, not genocide. Also, genocide is only good by your logic, don’t blame me.
Does this look like something that was built in Britain to you, Clyde?
I know the Sykes-Picot agreement and its consequences isn’t covered in Capital, but come on, I know you know what I’m talking about. The USA was just allying with who was already there, the Saudis would be rich regardless because of their oil.
So this (alleged) “tribal” gene of yours is just fascist fantasy? What a surprise.
Well, nah, there is no tribalism gene, there’s a bazillion of them that all interact with other genes and form the complicated being that is a human. Most of them are probably shared with our fellow apes, who act quite similar to how we did during the stone age.
Spoken like a true white supremacist - which means everything I said applies, fascism-boi.
Non-white westerners are morally superior to the Soviet Union and its successor states too.
The USA was just allying with who was already there
Oh, the poor, poor US… what were those dastardly Saudi’s thinking, forcing the innocent and righteous US to treat Saudi Arabia like a client state for it’s neocolonialist agenda in the middle-east? They’re almost as bad as those evil Vietnamese, who forced the US to innocently drop more ordnance on south-eastern Asia than it dropped during the entirety of WW2.
Poor and innocent US… oh won’t somebody please think of the poor military-industrial complex billionaires and oil tycoons?!
nah, there is no tribalism gene
So… it’s just fascist fantasy and nothing else. Your “tribalism” only exists in your right-wing ideology-addled head and nowhere else.
Non-white westerners
Oh… so if non-white people act white enough you will temporarily view them as honorary “westerners” as long as they are useful as a propaganda prop for you?
Yeah, Clyde… that doesn’t scream “rabid white supremacist” at all. Really.
Oh, the poor, poor US… what were those dastardly Saudi’s thinking, forcing the innocent and righteous US to treat Saudi Arabia like a client state for it’s neocolonialist agenda in the middle-east?
Would you rather we invade Saudi Arabia and establish a client state directly, so that we can establish a country that doesn’t commit rampant acts of evil against its own citizens? I can get behind that.
They’re almost as bad as those evil Vietnamese, who forced the US to innocently drop more ordnance on south-eastern Asia than it dropped during the entirety of WW2.
Well, ya, they hid inside a jungle where we couldn’t see them.
Poor and innocent US… oh won’t somebody please think of the poor military-industrial complex billionaires and oil tycoons?!
The MIC deserves more credit for the jobs they create and the technological innovations they pass onto the private sector, not to mention how powerful they make America.
So… it’s just fascist fantasy and nothing else. Your “tribalism” only exists in your right-wing ideology-addled head and nowhere else.
Nowhere else except every civilization and time period across human and pre-human history
Oh… so if non-white people act white enough you will temporarily view them as honorary “westerners” as long as they are useful as a propaganda prop for you?
So, you believe being moral to be an exclusively white trait? Because that sounds like what you’re saying.
Our failure to wipe Saudi Arabia off the map when we had an excuse to do so is one that I regret every day, but the fact of the matter is that the Taliban were harboring Al-Qaeda and refusing to cooperate in our search for them while Pakistan wasn’t. Also, America’s actions in the Middle East make sense when you remember that the economy would collapse if they decided to stop selling us fossil fuels. Unfortunate and scummy, yes, but I’d avoid pissing off my fuel source as well.
Studies have found that heritability affects everything from extroversion/introversion, disgust response, how compassionate someone is, how likely someone is to experience certain types of mental illness, testosterone and estrogen levels, and even whether someone is likely to be politically leftist or politically right wing, and when we selectively breed animals, we can get animals with completely different temperaments, but the idea that natural selection might’ve caused humans to have an affinity for the tribes we’ve been living in for the past few million years? Complete blasphemy, right?
Actually, scratch that, just look at human behavior and how people living in the same country and in the same economic class will find reasons to dislike eachother even in countries where ethnic tension is suppressed. Serbs, Bosniaks, and Croats lived in the same regions, were all equally poor, speak the same language, are genetically almost exactly the same, and share the vast majority of their culture with eachother, and as soon as Tito died and stopped suppressing tensions between them, they started hating on eachother for basically no reason at all and then started a war over it. There are many such cases in history where people will hate eachother for almost no reason, especially during times of scarcity or hardship. As it turns out, most people will choose their tribe over their economic class when the going gets rough.
Also, genetics is complicated as hell and sometimes simple observation of behavior has to do. You don’t expect the same burden of proof when you assume that humans are all altruistic, as well, since you treat that like an article of faith for a religion.
I have no idea what you’re talking about nor do I give a shit, I like Joe Biden’s policies better than the Republicans and think he’s more likely to win than people who’d do better than him. Simple as.
Oh… you “regret” not murdering more brown people to satify your tiny little fascist hardon, eh? In Saudi Arabia? The Saudi Arabia that is the product of US foreign policy? The Saudi Arabia that only exists as a client state of the US? That Saudi Arabia?
Proof for these (alleged) “tribal” genes, fascism-boi - you do know what actual proof is, don’t you?
Oh, of course you don’t, of course you don’t… you just get sexually aroused at the idea of committing genocide against brown people - it’s not that you’re a rabid white supremacist at all, eh?
Couldn’t possibly be that, right?
Saudi Arabia exists because the British fucked over the Sharif of Mecca and he got conquered by the Wahhabis. The reason I want them wiped off the map is because of that aforementioned Wahhabism, and yes, being friends with them was a mistake on America’s part, so what, every country does bad things
First of all, I don’t think you know what fascism is, second of all, the science of genetics is not advanced enough for us to narrow down the thousands of genes that affect someone’s personality. If you’re not able to draw conclusions from observing human behavior, I don’t know what to tell you.
Uh, nah, I think you’re projecting since you watch too much porn. I said the moral superiority of the west makes my dick hard, not genocide. Also, genocide is only good by your logic, don’t blame me.
Does this look like something that was built in Britain to you, Clyde?
So this (alleged) “tribal” gene of yours is just fascist fantasy? What a surprise.
Spoken like a true white supremacist - which means everything I said applies, fascism-boi.
I know the Sykes-Picot agreement and its consequences isn’t covered in Capital, but come on, I know you know what I’m talking about. The USA was just allying with who was already there, the Saudis would be rich regardless because of their oil.
Well, nah, there is no tribalism gene, there’s a bazillion of them that all interact with other genes and form the complicated being that is a human. Most of them are probably shared with our fellow apes, who act quite similar to how we did during the stone age.
Non-white westerners are morally superior to the Soviet Union and its successor states too.
Oh, the poor, poor US… what were those dastardly Saudi’s thinking, forcing the innocent and righteous US to treat Saudi Arabia like a client state for it’s neocolonialist agenda in the middle-east? They’re almost as bad as those evil Vietnamese, who forced the US to innocently drop more ordnance on south-eastern Asia than it dropped during the entirety of WW2.
Poor and innocent US… oh won’t somebody please think of the poor military-industrial complex billionaires and oil tycoons?!
So… it’s just fascist fantasy and nothing else. Your “tribalism” only exists in your right-wing ideology-addled head and nowhere else.
Oh… so if non-white people act white enough you will temporarily view them as honorary “westerners” as long as they are useful as a propaganda prop for you?
Yeah, Clyde… that doesn’t scream “rabid white supremacist” at all. Really.
Would you rather we invade Saudi Arabia and establish a client state directly, so that we can establish a country that doesn’t commit rampant acts of evil against its own citizens? I can get behind that.
Well, ya, they hid inside a jungle where we couldn’t see them.
The MIC deserves more credit for the jobs they create and the technological innovations they pass onto the private sector, not to mention how powerful they make America.
Nowhere else except every civilization and time period across human and pre-human history
So, you believe being moral to be an exclusively white trait? Because that sounds like what you’re saying.
Why? Is the current levels of rape, torture and murder in Saudi Arabia not enough for you, fascism-boi?
Can’t let a jungle get in the way of white supremacist murder-sprees, can we?
More boots for you to lick, I guess.
So, again… it’s just fascist fantasy and nothing else. Your “tribalism” only exists in your right-wing ideology-addled head and nowhere else.
Come now… tell us why you believe the KKK is merely “misunderstood.” We know you want to.
Nah, such a beautiful country simply deserves better than the House of Saud.
Actually, the murder-spree was anti-communist, significant difference
Get back to me when you’ve studied a little bit of psychology
Oh hell nah, I want you explain why the fuck you think being moral means someone is acting white. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?