• shadowspirit@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Yeah, so mass rape and terrorism is OK in your book if the ends justify the means? Hamas did start the conflict.

    Israel was in talks with Saudi Arabia to normalize relations and Iran didn’t want that at all and they gave Hamas the green light to attack.

    https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/09/saudi-israel-normalization-agreement-horizon

    Everything that happens in that region is about Saudi Arabia and Iran.

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      No one said its okay. You’re very good at strawmaning me. If Hamas did commit such acts then of course there should be proper justice. However, proper justice isn’t blowing up innocent people and children. Just like you don’t blow up a school when there’s a school shooter.

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        Where we disagree is in saying Hamas didn’t start this current conflict. They certainly did. Has shit been going on here for millenia? of course. The “strawman” was to remind you of the fact this opened with mass rape and murder at a music festival – that’s a fact.

        You seemed to argue that thousand years of history seemingly justifies that and I’m telling you that it does not. " If Hamas did "… So you’re absolute when it comes to Israel but when it comes to Hamas there’ are modifiers. Your bias is showing.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67613153

        https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/middleeast/rape-sexual-violence-hamas-israel-what-we-know-intl/index.html

        Israel has done plenty of things that they should not be doing. The warlike bombardment of a city is not justified and has soured world opinion against them.

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          10 months ago

          My “bias” is not an argument. Everyone has their biasias. The problem is that israel continues to lie on the narrative and just in this short span of time we’ve seen their lies come out. Take the “40 beheaded babies” for example. I’m open to an independent investigator.

          Also it’s very rich. You really like to dig on this issue of mass killing and rape and take issue with it but don’t take issue with israel doing the same exact thing and worse back. That is a double standard hypocrisy.

          Keep strawmaning me. I never said it justifies it.