This is a rant post and I apologize but I had to talk about this. Most subs are coming back online and not saying ANYTHING about the next steps. Only a handful of subs are going indefinite. I checked the front page for the first time today after leaving the a couple hours before the day of the blackout and what do I see? Subs are up, and comments and upvotes are up to the general average before the blackout.
I checked r/gaming to see their recent post (WHICH HAS OVER 68k UPVOTES), and I see a comment with over 500 upvotes saying in a nutshell, “You guys need to calm down, they’re a company and need to make money”.
Along with a couple other comments saying similar things. Are you fucking serious? You can’t even have the fucking balls to say, “This is a company that has consistently screwed over its users and I need to take a stand and quit my addiction”? You’re just gonna sit and do nothing? Fuck you. You’re no fucking better than u/spez. You’re all a bunch of fucking hypocritical liars for shitting on spez and the admins while talking about how you’re “done” with Reddit and you won’t support this.
Go touch grass you fucking addicted cowards. I’m glad I made the switch to Lemmy if it means I don’t have to interact with dumbfucks like you.
Jesus, this is the energy I wish was left behind on Reddit. People staying on Reddit does not impact you in any way, why does it enrage you to this extent? Who gives a shit if they continue to subject themselves to ads and bring under the control of a corporation? They don’t care, why do you? It is a waste of your energy, and the sheer toxicity of calling them dumbfuck cowards, saying they’re as bad as spez, is just ridiculous and pathetic.
Maybe I should switch to a smaller lemmy, if this is the vibe redditors want to bring to lemmy.
I dunno. This is the energy that made me finally decide Reddit wasn’t for me and work up the drive to give Lemmy a shot. My first 5 minutes here have been great!
Maybe if I’d already seen this post 50 times, I’d get where you are coming from, but for those of us that just got here, this is the energy that made it happen. Be patient while we acclimate.
FWIW, the people staying on Reddit kinda do, or did, impact us. Their apathy means that the community we’ve been a part of for years is not going to get better. They’re why we had to go.
I understand where you’re coming from, and I’m glad you made the move to lemmy. I myself came from Reddit just a few days ago and I have no plans to return. I also understand being frustrated by people not wanting to leave Reddit, you are right that it limits the potential of communities on lemmy, and it sucks. I’m not saying people shouldn’t talk about how they wish more redditors would leave.
For me, I’m just sick of the vitriol and hate that is all over this thread. People seem genuinely furious at the notion that not everyone is willing to join their crusade. I’m not sure if you’re justifying the vitriol or just the sentiment that people really should leave Reddit. If justifying the vitriol, your comment kind of reminds me of formerly fat people saying “I lost weight because I was bullied for being overweight, therefore it is actually a good thing to keep bullying fat people. I’m actually doing this because I care about their health, they’ll feel so much better and be so much healthier when they lose the weight!” Some people respond well to being mocked and shit on, most don’t. It just isn’t helpful and for 99% of people it just fuels negative feelings rather than a drive for change.
Their is an upside to this that people are not seeing, those that choose to willfully stay on reddit, means less of Reddit’s toxicity will seeps it’s way into Lemmy or k.bin. it allows both to grow more organically and foster better relations across the fediverse. (o▽o)
People here are far nicer and it’s a joy to step into a conversation and not feel like you could be jumping into a hornets nest. (((＞＜)))
I do admit it is annoying to see this anger people are having. But we all do feel like that after leaving a big platform that caused so much anger and vitrol. People do need their moment to get it out of their system and perhaps a thread like this is what is needed to get it out of their system before moving further into Lemmy or K.bin. ╮(︶▽︶)╭
I want you to know that you’re not alone in seeking a more thoughtful and accepting community :)
Thank you, I just read your comment about how we grow as we grow, and it reflects my sentiments exactly. I really like the way you write, it has harmony. We can’t expect others to feel how we feel, and being full of rage won’t move us in the direction we want.
I deleted my Reddit account earlier today and joined Lemmy just a few hours later. Like the migration from Twitter to Mastodon, this is a much better place.
Agree, let them do whatever they want.
If this place turns into rage bait content like reddit Im out. Way too nice outside to deal with cynical assholes to discuss irrelevant stuff that has no real impact
Honestly, I never meant to fully ditch Reddit, but I think I’ll be coming here for conversations from now on. I’m so tired of how toxic it’s gotten. This place feels really comfortable.
I’m thinking Federation gives us more options at making a better behaved, less trolling community.
But we as users, admins, moderators, and community leaders need to learn the new tools and lay of the land. Pros and cons to different philosophies.
Well, it actually does.
The main thing is we NEED to get rid of these companies controlling internet content. It is bad for the future of the internet and the future of information.
As society progress communication and information over the internet are getting every day more important, that’s why activity pub and federation are so important right now. The more people adopt the fediverse the lesser control over us these companies will have.
All the information the collective built on reddit wasn’t done with the intent to give that to Reddit, it was done to people for the people, to help each other in the community.
This is the curve of history. Movements arise, they grow, and once they hit a mass large enough to capitalize off of they’re co-opted. This has always been the way. It will continue for a long time. We keep our chins up and our eyes forward. Yes, it’s frustrating. But we keep on keeping on. We do the right thing because it’s the right thing - not because it’s easy.
Have heart, lemming
That’s precisely why we have to take action.
We are, we moved to lemmy. In the short term the majority absolutely will stay at reddit and nothing will change. There’s no use in despairing over that or getting angry. We will plod on, stone-faced and indifferent to those who don’t care. They don’t affect us. We will grow as we grow, and getting emotional will not change any of that
I agree, I am not the OP. I am not angry, I only sad they affect us.
Objectively this affect not only us, but everyone that will ever need to search for information online.
The arc of history doesn’t bend on its own. It must be bent. Don’t be complacent and just wait for things to get better on their own.
This.
Its OK to fight for something better/right. Anger is just another tool in your toolbox.
Consumer advocacy is good. Don’t ever let anybody convince you otherwise, especially those trying to shape the narrative.
Yeah, if anything I’m enjoying watching the way this dumpster fire plays out. I’ll probably hang on for as long as I can and keep using my Relay Pro app until reddit fizzles away on June 30th, then overwrite all my comments or erase my accounts.
What’s happening is for the best. It’s better to just accept that reddit is no longer, and that we can foster real communities within Lemmy that can no longer be taken away from us by CEO’s with micropeens. Power can now be distributed collectively into the fediverse without the need for advertising or data collection. The future of the internet is in the federated internet 😊