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  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    4 hours ago

    Only a literal child considers both sides exclusively in the capacity of “genocide” in this case. This is like saying that the US won the space race because we got to the moon and back, with people. Even though the USSR did literally everything else before the US did.

    Even a lot of literal children realise that trying to equate Israel and Palestine as being equally guilty here is not like comparing the US space program to the Soviet’s. It’s more like comparing the US space program to the Ghanan space program.

    You just can’t accept any fault on Israel’s part, because you’re a pathetic genocide denier, denying rape and slaughter of children.

    UN Commission Finds Israel Guilty of Crimes Against Humanity

    The report holds the Israeli occupation responsible for the ongoing catastrophic situation in Gaza. But it also alludes to the possibility that October 7 is a watershed moment for even harsher Israeli occupation unless international law is urgently implemented.

    Israel is sanctioned for committing “crimes against humanity of extermination, gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys, murder, forcible transfer, and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment.”

    In clear and deliberate violation of international law, Israel intended to commit these crimes: to murder civilians en masse, inflict wide-scale civilian destruction, and collectively punish and dehumanize Palestinians in Gaza. Palestinians were murdered. They didn’t die as collateral damage or as unintended victims of Israeli military operations, but as Israel’s deliberate targets.

    There the truth goes, being objective again. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    1 day ago

    Yeah, i googled it.

    You’re such a bad liar, and it taking several comments for you to even understand what “in bad faith” meant and then pretend like you suddenly do know how to ask it the simple questions you pretended not to understand in the previous comment is… just chefskiss.

    because genocide is almost always

    Ah, so we’re using your definition, but the definition of the UN and the actions of Israel actually fulfilling reasonable grounds for it doesn’t matter, the experts on international law don’t matter, but things you pull out of your arse do? :D

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

    Here you go, miss.

    war crimes against israel?

    If you weren’t American, I’d have to assume you’re asking this in bad faith, once again. But since I know your guys’ literacy rates are on the level of the third world, I think you might have actually read it like that. No worries, I’ll help you understand your native language better. I said “You can’t admit to a single piece of evidence of the MOUNTAIN of evidence of war crimes there is against Israel”

    The war crimes weren’t committed against Israel. The evidence is against Isreal. The evidence that proves they’ev committed war crimes. On Palestine.

    Like these:

    https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/2024-05/240520-panel-report-eng.pdf https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses

    Oh, right, sorry, I just remembered you’re proudly ignorant and probably your literacy matches that attitude, so something… more to your level:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_the_Gaza_Strip

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_schools_during_the_Israeli_invasion_of_Gaza

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_during_the_Israel–Hamas_war

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli_airstrikes_on_municipal_services_in_the_Gaza_Strip

    You’re literally ignoring the fact that the world is against Israel’s slaughter of women and children, so you get to this tantrum and start kicking your foot and going “waaah, waah, no no no, Israel no bad, only hamas bad!”

    Then you go on a tiresome tirade about how you see “fallacies”. It’s rather entertaining, really, watching a kid like you larp understanding debating. That’s why I’m still in this thread. People like you disgust me, but it’s that sort of morbid type of disgust in which I’m sort of intrigued by it. Your willfull ignorance is psychologically interesting.

    to use the “people like you” phrasing.

    Yeah, people like you. People who act in this way, denying reality, denying genocide. Which is what you’re doing, and which is what I talked about through-out this thread, you being the case in point, really. I’m not talking about some random of group of people. It’s not some ethnic trait I’ve chosen to hate. I hate genocide deniers, like I hate rapist pieces of shit and child murderers. It doesn’t matter where they’re from or what they look like; if they slaughter children and rape people and then deny all that having happened; they’re a shit person, innit? (Oh and just as a personal tip, if you like larping philosopher with “fallacies”, maybe Google “fallacy fallacy”, unless you’re still pretending not to know how to Google. :DD)

    Israel is a war criminal and it’s committing genocide, and you are defending it.

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    2 days ago

    There you go again, pretending that either you’ve never heard of what either “implication” or “birthright” mean and that you’re literally too stupid to write a single word into Google… OR you keep doing the same thing you’ve been doing all along; arguing in bad faith.

    Just like you genocide defending lunatics always do.

    Keep hammering out pages of junior high level non-sequiturs, it’s not gonna change the situation.

    You deny a genocide happening. The world doesn’t.

    Keep pushing that propaganda, I’ll keep replying here, as I enjoy forums and laughing at proudly ignorant American girls like you.

    “It’s literally referred to as starvation, not homicide”

    I come over and strangle you to death. The cause of death is strangulation. The coroner writes that in the autopsy report. Due to this evidence, I get arrested and put on trial. Yet later, after a trial I get convicted for homicide? "There goes my logic, making sense again." ;)

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    3 days ago

    “Fake news fake news, everything is an opinion, facts don’t exist! Israel is just defending itself! Genocide doesn’t exist! Palestinians are animals, you can’t genocide animals!”

    How did you enjoy your birthright year?

    https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/war-crimes.shtml https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/

    Genocide hasn’t been determined, as again, ICC procedures take time. Why are you ignoring this? Why are you claiming there is no evidence, when there is enough evidence for the ICC to find “reasonable grounds” for prosecuting and seeks arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant? https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/2024-05/240520-panel-report-eng.pdf

    1. The Prosecutor seeks arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav Gallant, the Israeli Minister of Defense, on the basis that they committed the war crime of ‘intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare’ under article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the ICC Statute. The Prosecutor also seeks to charge the two suspects with various other war crimes and crimes against humanity associated with the use of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare under articles 7 and 8 of the ICC Statute. These include the war crimes of ‘[w]ilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health’ or cruel treatment, wilful killing or murder, and intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population. The proposed charges also include the crimes against humanity of murder, extermination, other inhumane acts and persecution with respect to deaths and injuries resulting from or associated with the systematic deprivation of objects indispensable to the survival of Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The Panel notes the Prosecutor’s statement that other alleged crimes, including in connection with the large-scale bombing campaign in Gaza, are actively being investigated.

    2. The Prosecutor seeks to charge Netanyahu and Gallant on the basis that they made an essential contribution to a common plan to use starvation and other acts of violence against the Gazan civilian population as a means to eliminate Hamas and secure the return of hostages as well as to inflict collective punishment on the civilian population of Gaza who they perceived as a threat to Israel. It is also alleged that they had effective authority and control over their subordinates and knew of their subordinates’ crimes but did not take necessary action to prevent or repress these crimes, leading to their criminal responsibility as superiors.

    3. The war crime of ‘intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare’ requires ‘depriving [civilians] of objects indispensable to their survival, including wilfully impeding relief supplies as provided for under the Geneva Conventions’. The crime is not limited solely to the deprivation of food, but includes other objects indispensable for the survival of civilians such as water, fuel and medicine.

    4. The Panel notes three preliminary points relevant to its analysis. First, as a result of a number of factors, including the imposition by Israel of restrictions on the movement of people and goods from and to Gaza in the aftermath of its 2005 disengagement, Gazans were highly dependent on Israel for the provision of and access to objects indispensable for the survival of the population even before 7 October.7

    5. Second, although Israeli officials have a right to ensure that aid is not diverted to the benefit of the enemy and to stipulate lawful technical arrangements for its transfer, they cannot impose arbitrary restrictions – such as restrictions that violate Israel’s obligations under international law, including international humanitarian law and 7 international human rights law, or that contravene the principles of necessity and proportionality – when exercising these rights.

    6. Third, parties to an armed conflict must not deliberately impede the delivery of humanitarian relief for civilians, including humanitarian relief provided by third parties. And when a territory is under the belligerent occupation of one party to the conflict, there is also an enhanced active obligation for the occupying power to ensure adequate humanitarian aid for civilians, including by providing such aid itself insofar as this is necessary.8 In the Panel’s view, while it can reasonably be argued that Israel was the occupying power in Gaza even before 7 October 2023, Israel certainly became the occupying power in all of or at least in substantial parts of Gaza after its ground operations in the territory began.9

    7. With this in mind, and based on a review of material presented by the Prosecutor, the Panel assesses that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Netanyahu and Gallant formed a common plan, together with others, to jointly perpetrate the crime of using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare. The Panel has concluded that the acts through which this war crime was committed include a siege on the Gaza Strip and the closure of border crossings; arbitrary restrictions on entry and distribution of essential supplies; cutting off supplies of electricity and water, and severely restricting food, medicine and fuel supplies. This deprivation of objects indispensable to civilians’ survival took place in the context of attacks on facilities that produce food and clean water, attacks against civilians attempting to obtain relief supplies and attacks directed against humanitarian workers and convoys delivering relief supplies, despite the deconfliction and coordination by humanitarian agencies with Israel Defence Forces. These acts took place with full knowledge of the extent of Gazans’ reliance on Israel for essential supplies, and the adverse and inevitable consequences of such acts in terms of human suffering and deaths for the civilian population.

    8. The Prosecutor has also sought charges against Netanyahu and Gallant for the war crimes of wilful killing or murder and intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population, as well as the crimes against humanity of extermination or murder and persecution for deaths resulting from the use of starvation and related acts of violence including attacks on civilians gathering to obtain food and on humanitarian workers.

    9. In the Panel’s view, there are reasonable grounds to believe that the suspects committed these crimes. The Panel also considers that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the crimes were committed in the context of a widespread and systematic attack against the civilian population of Gaza, pursuant to State policy.

    10. The Panel’s assessment is that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Netanyahu and Gallant are responsible for the killing of civilians who died as a result of starvation, either because the suspects meant these deaths to happen or because they were aware that deaths would occur in the ordinary course of events as a result of their methods of warfare. According to material submitted by the Prosecutor, a large number of Palestinian civilians have already died in these circumstances. In relation to extermination, the number of deaths resulting from starvation is sufficient on its own to support the charge, according to standards set out in international jurisprudence.10 And this number is, unfortunately, only likely to rise. There are also reasonable grounds to believe that the starvation campaign and associated acts of violence involved the severe deprivation of victims’ fundamental rights by reason of their identity as Palestinians. This can be qualified as the crime against humanity of persecution.

    11. The Prosecutor has also sought to charge Netanyahu and Gallant with the crime against humanity of other inhumane acts and the war crime of wilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health, or cruel treatment, with respect to the non-lethal suffering inflicted through starvation of the civilian population of Gaza. The Panel assesses that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the suspects committed these crimes against many thousands of individuals in Gaza.

    12. Based on the material it has reviewed, the Panel assesses that there are reasonable grounds to believe that Netanyahu and Gallant made essential contributions to the common plan to use starvation of civilians as a method of warfare and commit other acts of violence against the civilian population. This is evidenced by their own statements and the statements of other Israeli officials. It is also evidenced by the systematic nature of the crime, and the involvement of the suspects at the apex of the Israeli governmental apparatus, with effective authority and control over their subordinates and leadership positions in the War Cabinet and Security Cabinet, in which all key decisions on the conduct of the war – including blocking and limiting humanitarian aid – have been made. The Panel is also of the view that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the suspects can be held responsible as superiors given their knowledge of the crimes and the fact that they took no steps to prevent or repress their subordinates who committed them.

    But no, there’s “no evidence”, right? You’re not just being a willfully ignorant brainwashed git who’s ignoring all the literal evidence and having a tantrum, right? But you won’t even read those chapters, and even if you did, your programming won’t allow you to accept them. It’s despicable. Get a fucking grip on your own head.

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    3 days ago

    it’s literally war?

    Again, your lack of education on the subject is quite entertaining. No, it isn’t war. Is the nation of Palestine at war with the nation of Israel? No. Israel claims to be at war with a vaguely defined terrorist organisation. There’s quite a lot of literature about the war on “terror” and how it enables authoritarian military action. Of course you haven’t read any of that.

    War has a definition.

    War is a phenomenon of organized collective violence that affects either the relations between two or more societies or the power relations within a society. War is governed by the law of armed conflict, also called “international humanitarian law.”

    https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/war/

    Hmm… and what does that “international humanitarian law” say about this conflict? Should we ask the experts, perhaps? Unless you think you’re so much more knowledgeable in international law than literally every single expert on international law?

    Since you seem to be partial to Wikipedia (probably because of it’s simplicity): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes

    But also, from an actual source:

    The Prosecutor seeks arrest warrants against Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav Gallant, the Israeli Minister of Defense, on the basis that they committed the war crime of ‘intentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare’ under article 8(2)(b)(xxv) of the ICC Statute. The Prosecutor also seeks to charge the two suspects with various other war crimes and crimes against humanity associated with the use of starvation of civilians as a method of warfare under articles 7 and 8 of the ICC Statute. These include the war crimes of ‘[w]ilfully causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or health’ or cruel treatment, wilful killing or murder, and intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population. The proposed charges also include the crimes against humanity of murder, extermination, other inhumane acts and persecution with respect to deaths and injuries resulting from or associated with the systematic deprivation of objects indispensable to the survival of Palestinian civilians in Gaza. The Panel notes the Prosecutor’s statement that other alleged crimes, including in connection with the large-scale bombing campaign in Gaza, are actively being investigated.

    Report of the Panel of Experts in International Law

    nah i just don’t remember what i typed

    “No my gf lives in Canada you wouldn’t know her, but she’s definitely real”

    “The information you gave from the United Nations, the UN Human Right Office, they mean absolutely nothing, or they straight up lie.”

    And you say you could equally well say to me that my facts don’t make sense? Mmm-hhmm, yeah. I keep showing actual sources from the United Nations and other reputable institutions and experts on international law. You keep having a tantrum and kicking your feet, screaming “fake news fake news.” You might delude yourself into thinking we’re both on the same footing in the debate, but you are the only one who’s even slightly buying that.

    Keep sealioning, kiddo, it’s not gonna make your delusions real. You still refuse to answer very simple yes or no questions: is Israel committing warcrimes? Is there a genocide being committed? You pretend to answer, but you only equivocate. And your equivocation isn’t even on the level of Trump, and that man is demented as fuck.

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.world•Apparently controversial, in this day and age
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    3 days ago

    And how exactly did you get “I hate reading” from “I hate genocidal fucks like you”?

    No need to equivocate like that, your stance is clear.

    What the fuck do you mean? I have explicitly stated what my stance on this is, multiple times, it’s the same everytime, if you think it’s any different that’s a problem with your comprehension.

    Weirdly you keep avoiding actually mentioning any, just going on with vague “both sides” bullshit and “not enough evidence” patheticism.

    Since it clearly missed you; DO YOU THINK THERE’S A GENOCIDE GOING ON IN GAZA?

    Do you think Israelis are at an equal risk of being the victims of genocide as Palestinians are?

    ANSWER CLEARLY; since I’m clearly incapable of perceiving anything other. (Or you just equivocate because you know what is the right side of history but you don’t actually want to go against your brainwashing of DO NOT CRITICISE ISRAEL DO NOT CRITICISE ISRAEL.)

    perhaps, one could argue that i was making a point about the intricacies in small things making determination of larger concepts a much harder process

    You didn’t read it, got it. You skimmed and concluded “there’s no sentence” and thought that’s it. That’s exactly my point about the way you “argue.”

    just for the record here, i’m not going to do it

    Yes, I knew you wouldn’t, because you don’t have the spine to stand behind this garbage with your own name, face or even voice. Probably because it’s high and crackling. You can’t put your money where your mouth is, because you don’t believe or even understand what you’re pushing.

    it is extremely difficult to give a concise answer to the question, adding all of the propaganda, misinformation, and disinformation out there on the internet, from both sides

    No, it isn’t, unless you’re pushing Israeli propaganda.

    Again. Literally the vast fucking majority of the world agree it’s a genocide.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa's_genocide_case_against_Israel#Other_international_responses

    Algeria[179] Bangladesh[4] Bolivia[180] Brazil[181][182][183] Chile[184] China[185] Colombia[181][186] Comoros[187] Cuba[188] Djibouti[187] Egypt[189][190] Indonesia[191] Iran[192] Iraq[191] Ireland[193] Jordan[194] Lebanon[195] Libya[196] Malaysia[197] Maldives[198] Mexico[199] Namibia[4] Nicaragua[4][200] Pakistan[201] Palestine[4] Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[202] Saint Vincent and the Grenadines[203] Slovenia[204][205] Spain[206][207] Syria[208] Turkey[197] Venezuela[4] Zimbabwe[209][210] African Union[211][212] Arab League[213] Organisation of Islamic Cooperation[214] Non-Aligned Movement

    Some more alliances, less stately:

    Al-Haq[277]
Al-Mezan Center for Human Rights[277]
Amnesty International[278]
Boycott from Within[274][276][279]
CodePink[280][272][273]
De-Colonizer[281][274][276]
Democratic Socialists of America[274]
Human Rights Watch[27][282][4]
International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network[274]
International Peoples' Assembly[131]
Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions[274][276][283]
Israelis Against Apartheid[274][276][284][285]
Jewish Voice for Peace[274]
La Via Campesina[131]
National Lawyers Guild[272]
Nelson Mandela Foundation[286]
New Zealand Labour Party[287][288]
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights[277]
Palestinian General Federation of Trade Unions[131]
Palestinian NGO Network[131]
Progressive International[280][272][273]
RootsAction[280][272][273]
People's Forum[280][272][273]
Women's International League for Peace and Freedom[289]
World Beyond War[280][272][273]
World March of Women[131]

    These are just the ones officially supporting South-Africa’s ICC case. Not every country which condemns Israel.

    https://press.un.org/en/2024/ga12599.doc.htm

    At Emergency Special Session, General Assembly Overwhelmingly Backs Membership of Palestine to United Nations, Urges Security Council Support Bid

    The Assembly adopted the resolution titled “Admission of new Members to the United Nations” (document A/ES-10/L.30/Rev.1) by a recorded vote of 143 in favour to 9 against (Argentina, Czech Republic, Hungary, Israel, Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Papua New Guinea, United States)

    You know why a majority is for giving Palestine official UN status and Israel and other pussy-states are against it? Because as soon as it goes through, it’s much simpler to show that the legal definition of a genocide (which you tried looking up on fucking wikipedia :DDD, here have an actual document lol.

    Here’s the Israeli Defence Minister directly announcing that they are fighting “HUMAN ANIMALS”. (Perhaps google the word “dehumanisation”.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPdR3E4hCk (edit forgot to add this link)

    In short, i have no reasonable way, manner, or method, to make a well informed opinion of the events taking place

    Yeah, because you’re **PURPOSEFULLY IGNORING ALL THE INTERNATIONAL LAW EXPERTS AND GLOBAL HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS LOUDLY CRYING GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE GENOCIDE." You’re like a Flat Earther insisting he’s using objective science. You’re like a scientologists, denouncing psychiatry. You’re like a transphobe screaming “there are only two genders.” ALL the fucking experts disagree with you, but you’re not man enough to admit when you’re wrong, or even man enough to understand you should stop shaming yourself online.

    “NO WAY OF KNOWING :///////”"

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/11/gaza-un-experts-call-international-community-prevent-genocide-against

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/03/un-experts-condemn-flour-massacre-urge-israel-end-campaign-starvation-gaza

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9950n003yo

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/19/israels-actions-in-gaza-intentional-attack-on-civilians-un-inquiry

    https://turkiye.un.org/en/263401-gaza-number-children-killed-higher-four-years-world-conflict

    https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/06/25/how-israel-targets-journalists-in-gaza-the-press-vest-now-puts-us-in-danger_6675653_4.html

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/10/un-expert-warns-new-instance-mass-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-calls (and that’s from last october)

    Ah, there’s nothing I can do to fix a sick puppy like you, so I don’t know why I’m wasting my time on a propaganda-troll. You will never admit Israel is raping and pillaging Palestinians, and it’s disgusting and it should make you really, really fucking concerned about your own psyche that you have this sickly desire to acquiesce to shit you know isn’t real.

    But I guess those UN offices are just “anti-semites looking to genocide Israel”, huh?

    For the record, I love reading. It’s just that you’re not producing text. You’re producing gibberish you think is convincing rhetoric. It’s sort of like watching a five-year old play kitchen. You have absolutely no idea of the words you use and your rhetoric is elementary.

    You ignore the evidence , then you equivocate and move the goalposts.

    You ignore the fact that ICJ and ICC courts take a significant amount of time. If you were right now being held for trial for allegedly having raped 800 children and there were hundreds of hours of filmed evidence of you doing it, do you think it’d mean you’re innocent because you’ve not yet got a guilty verdict?

    You’re despicable. And it shows from you getting so utterly pissed when I sussed out so easily that you’re probably part of this group and of Jewish American descent, went to your birthright (because you couldn’t afford a holiday anytime else) and got brainwashed so bad that now you’re getting literally cross-brained trying to not to admit what the scum of Israel are doing.

    Why do you ignore all the evidence?

    I read all your childish garbage utterings. None of them have a lick of an argument behind them. It’s like piss-poor rhetoric from a malnourished Soviet official who started vodka on an empty stomach; zero literacy and stumbling all over in a panic because they know they’re in trouble.

  • Dasus@lemmy.worldtoComic Strips@lemmy.world•things you can only do with boys
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    3 days ago

    They’re way too far up inside her for a camera to capture.

    Unless the cameras are designed for that. Usually found in hospitals and on plumbers. And the pictures that come out of those are not identifiable as who they’re from.

    I definitely agree with you that “nards” is in no way gender neutral as a term. I wonder how “gender neutral” @Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee would think it to refer to an infant boy as having a “hoo-haa”, “vag” or a “pus”?