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  • a candidate should work to appeal to 100% of their voter base

    Less a proposal and more of a fact: People won’t vote for a candidate who does not support the issues that they support. You can’t expect a voter who is against fracking to vote for a candidate who supports fracking.

    If Kamala supports fracking and the majority of voters do not, it is up to her to change, not the voters.

    i consider this a voter skill issue

    Yeah… Democrats want to blame the voters so they can continue to court wealthy donors. If everyone in Michigan promises to “Vote Blue No Matter Who” then they can continue arming Israel without losing any Muslim votes. Unfortunately that’s not how things work.





  • i mean that’s a fair statement, but she wouldn’t be running on fracking if she thought it was detrimental, so it’s either not a huge concern for most voters, or there is something more than being let on in the rhetoric here.

    You’re begging the question here. If Democrats paid attention to their voters we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Generally, critics of Dem strategy believe that they are too beholden to wealthy donors.

    Democrats blame Jill Stein for Clinton’s loss. But Dems can’t force her not to run again, or people not to vote for her. If Kamala doesn’t win, it will be because she didn’t convince enough people to vote for her, not because Jill Stein is running.









  • Your articles are calling you a liar. Not me. (Edit: Well, I am too, come to think of it.)

    The first Pew research graph clearly says that 47% of white women voted for Republicans and 45 for Democrats.

    The second makes no mention of race. If you choose to reply, repeat after me: “Nonwhite women exist.” Maybe you just forgot about Hispanic women. And Asian. And everyone else.

    The third just dismisses exit polling without presenting any data to dispute it.

    Edit: My bad, I should have looked at your whole article. It also agrees with me. Sit your lying ass down.

    The 52% statistic appears to be one of those myths. According to a later analysis that experts consider more reliable, a study published in August by the Pew Research Center, the percentage of white women who voted for Trump was actually 47%, compared to 45% for Clinton. T

    By my count, we have the Post and Pew Research (And the Times) supporting me, and you have yet to support your claim at all.


  • Everyone gets their own internet. But consider that I might have been paying more attention to this specific topic than you have?

    Do you remember Proposition 8?

    And the Post revisits — yet again — the blaming of black churchgoers for the passage of California’s Proposition 8 during the 2008 election cycle. Indeed, even before that November vote, prominent white members of the LGBT community vilified religious African Americans for supposedly voting with a stridently anti-LGBT agenda. Indeed, church attendance has been called the main cause of black voters’ support for Proposition 8, which banned same-sex marriage. https://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134257733/the-root-the-misjudged-black-vote-on-gay-marriage

    There was SO much vitriol from white Democrats, especially some members of the LGBT community…when it turned out that even if every Black person voted for gay marriage, it still wouldn’t have overturned the white votes against it. In 2020, there were endless articles about the increasing number of Black men voting Republican for a 3% increase.

    I’m not saying I’ve done a scientific study on who is writing articles about what. That’s my take and reasonable people may disagree. But it is wild how many people are just straight up lying in this thread to pretend that white women don’t vote for Republicans though.

    Anybody with a good grasp of history should understand how quickly and often Black people become the scapegoats for anything that goes wrong.






  • I’m sorry are you asking about white women voting for Republicans? Did you look at your first link? I suspect you’re conflating “women” with “white women”.

    That conflation is really what I’m talking about when I mention the racism of this country. It honestly was not meant to be pointed directly at the people here, I mean that stories abound about how “women” are solidly Democratic as a way to hide that the majority of white women are Republicans.

    Edit: But if you’re quibbling that 47% is not a majority when 42% voted for Democrats, you’re just wasting time. If only white women voted, Republicans would win.