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  • Take it or leave it.

    Ones the shortest path to a good life for the kids. Being stubborn and martyring for the cause is what everyone there is taught is right at the schools. Including the UN run ones.

    And you seemed to have missed the citizenship and relocation to a safe place with protection. The only threat to them at that point is the violent thugs that run their government and the people who think collective punishment is OK who want revenge.

    Germans went through this too BTW.


  • Palestinians in Gaza have been offered citizenship, relocation for their families, and a financial reward to snitch on Hamas.

    Hamas is very popular unfortunately. Still hundreds, maybe thousands now, of collaborators including the family of its leadership.

    Oh yea also your numerical comparison is more like 1/50 are Hamas fighters or directly involved. We (as in everyone native to the region) have big families with lots of kids which is why the population demographics look like they do. My grandma was 1 of 12 siblings. The guy I linked is 1 of 9. But as the guy I linked said the kids are taught and expected that being a militant fighter is a noble goal so a few young men in each family end up becoming fighters with family support.



  • I think it’s a pretty verifiable thing and that both sides have motive to push prop.

    One just caught lying about this already. I don’t mean historically I mean this actual incident.

    Instead of waiting as long as we have the ordinance should have been shown through spokesmen immediately and at the press conference the ministry held surrounded by bodies.

    It takes time to do a convincing fake. So I expect this debate will reignite later.


  • The European and US intelligence services estimated the death toll at ~50 and 100-300 respectively.

    I assume satellite imagery and counting…there’s probably also UAVs from all the great powers recording footage.

    Seperately im fairly certain the Israeli security services have spies all over gaza. Somewhat grimly I think the air strikes have had a large component of people on the ground marking areas for strikes after confirming the presence of some Hamas member. It was a strategy exploited during the Russia/Ukraine war and it’s something Israelis can do because they are largely the same ethnicity.

    As for the size of the explosion it’s not a great source but you can review pyrotechnic demonstrations of actual military munitions versus like a small special effects explosion and a lot of fuel. The former tends to not actually have a huge fire ploom like the hospital bombing had. There is one it’s just relatively small. If the rocket misfired and had a lot of ignited fuel spraying over the area… It causes that sort of imagery and casualties.


  • The hospital isn’t destroyed and no staff were killed.

    A bunch of refugees in the parking lot, a lot less than reported by the health ministry, got killed by being coated in propellant and ignited. Fuel explosions make a big visual effect, but don’t really destroy buildings.

    The same health ministry that over reported casualties is also hiding the ordinance remnants that did it instead of showing the world.