You say the instance is full of angry weirdos but the only one I’ve seen is you. We aren’t impressed with your JD antics.

Maybe taking it a little too seriously, but thank you for putting a joke in there at the end.

Really! It almost feels like trolling to be an American company and push an update on a major cooking holiday. Lol

Lol what a time to push updates. I would donate that smoker and never buy that brand again if it happened to me.

I wasn’t being technical. I was giving a light hearted ribbing to someone younger. When you counter that with “well actually” you take the fun out of it.

Okay, last reply then. You do not understand how covenants work. You called them co-ops earlier, further proving you don’t know. Property management companies are not the owners of condos, same as HOAs who are also not the owners of properties. You do not understand why these distinctions are important and why they function differently for different residencies.

You do not understand nationalization. You focus on one piece of critical infrastructure, and ignore the rest. Like buses, airlines, banks, ferries, steel mills, broadcasting companies, healthcare, post offices, electrical companies, mortgage associations - many of which weren’t failing and were nationalized for other reasons. Just like you cherry pick three countries and ignore the rest. Those three countries are oppressive, that’s why you don’t want to live there. Not because of nationalization. You really are just disingenuous. You didn’t read anything.

Forbes is corporate propaganda.

I already made my point about desirability. I don’t need to make it again just because you refuse to read anything.

Oh look, you didn’t read again. The voucher system should be transitory to providing and guaranteeing housing to all citizens.

I’m done talking to someone so disingenuous. Bye.

Younger people always remind me that they are young. I have used many clocks over many years that I need to manually reset. Younger people don’t seem to realize that most people have appliances they don’t want to connect to the internet.

Very silly.

There are apartments, townhomes, duplexes, condos, single family homes, bungalows, and maybe more I am forgetting. Pretty easy to look up if you actually tried. For MDUs, condo associations do that all the time, and even though I hate them, HOAs serve the same purpose for single family units. Again, all easily searched if you took the time to. This could be transitory to simply providing housing through HUD.

Here’s a list of countries that have nationalized businesses, usually relating to critical infrastructure. Which housing would fall under. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nationalizations_by_country

Not that insane, just disingenuous of you to say that. Plenty of countries here that I would live in. Australia, Spain, France, Germany, Portugal, Japan, Netherlands, Sweden, Iceland, New Zealand, Finland, Canada, UK, Indonesia - all have nationalized businesses within recent/modern history and businesses haven’t fled those countries en masse. And of course, go ahead and take a look at nationalization in the United States. It sounds to me like you were trying to make a point about certain countries YOU don’t like, and ignoring all the other countries that have nationalized businesses, which includes the one we live in! Maybe you should reconsider your internal biases.

Forbes is not a good source. Lol

That’s not an issue of enough housing for people to live in. Desirability is a separate issue tackled through improving the local economy, job offerings, amenities, etc.

How would I lower the prices? If you listened earlier I mentioned increasing the availability of housing vouchers and also lowering the requirements for eligibility.

It doesn’t feel like people read what I say so I think I will end the conversation here. Take care.

So do I, and I am sorry he is threatening the best allies we have ever had.

You’re putting words in my mouth. The US government, if it chose, could increase assistance with its programs in HUD. The government could increase the availability of housing vouchers in the meantime while transitioning to guaranteeing some form of housing for its citizens. You jumped to single family homes as if that’s the only option, but there are many alternatives. The government could also nationalize corporations that gouge renters. There are many steps to be taken instead of hand waving away anything that isn’t perfect. Why would you tear down existing buildings instead of providing any alternatives? Do you know how many vacant homes there are in America? Over 15 million.

All of this is a pipe dream with the current administration.

You are right. My anger is making me worse. I am positioning myself as an enemy to you for no reason other than my own bitterness.

Private property makes money. Personal property does not. Home ownership, if you live in it, does not make you money and is personal property. A rental would be private property.

Fair enough then. You’re right about this individual being miniscule compared to those who are purposely wreaking havoc on housing.

You didn’t insult me and I have been bitter towards you. I used to believe in decorum and always being kind, but it felt like it got me nowhere. I apologize to you and hope you have a good day.

Personal property is not the same as private property.

That is true! Yes! Finally. I have lost my compassion since Trump was elected a second time. Hopefully I will find it again.

Thank you for pointing that out. I am becoming disillusioned.

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Do you think they met, moved in, and got married in a week?