‘Criticise politicians’ is not a fair representation of the DSA withdrawing their endorsement for AOC.

Man could have been hit by a meteorite and they’d say the same thing.

The polls I see put it at about 50-50 ( from Fivethirtyeight.com ).

Your summary is wrong. They put out an opinion piece arguing that the DNC underestimates the threat from the GOP. I agree, they’re running a pathetically weak campaign against someone who will probably end democracy and might have them all killed.

The person you’re talking to is unlikely to be pursuaded but there’s usually silent, invisible lurkers who can be.

I know I’ve changed my mind on things because of arguments I’ve read on the internet.

It is proven that people do double down on their views when confronted with opposing evidence, but IMO this is more about the psychology of trust and confrontation between individuals, rather than proof of the futility of argument as a concept. Hell, Vsauce made a video called ‘The Future of Reasoning’, where he makes the case that argument might have been selected for as an essential part of human psychology and necessary for our survivial.

The trick is to argue with the voices in your own head and simply project them on to other people’s comments.

Political apathy.

I don’t think a vote is an endorsement. Sometimes it’s an end of a bus to stand in as it’s teetering over the edge of a cliff. You might be shoulder to shoulder with a murderer, and you might be there for a while ,it might also be for nothing - but there’s a chance it doesn’t fall off. It isn’t inevitable. It’s very evitable.

Well I lean further left than a guy who’s left leg has been blown off and I’ve never heard of ‘Action T4’ . I’m also staunchly opposed to holocausting all disabled people.

We might also need the politically disaffected youth, the politically oblivious median boomer and everyone inbetween.

We need the people who would laugh at the suggestion that you can make politicians care by voting for them. It’s a hard argument to make with this candidate.

I disagree, both the left and the right have gained ground at the expense of the centre. Labour may have won a supermajority but they did so with fewer votes than in 2019 when they lost to the Conservatives.

The biggest reason they did so well this time around was because the Conservative vote was split by the far right Reform party. Reform won barely any seats but they had the third highest turnout of any party.

Incredibly good news. They’re ahead of both the far right and the centrists.

True but I hope the swing voters agree.

Yeah and Hitler injected human shit into himself, so what? Where does this sense of confidence come from? He said he’d kill people and now he’s legally allowed to do it.

Actually History isn’t always written by the victors. After WW2 a load of german officers fled to south America and began writing books about how great they were and could have won if only they had finished developing all their wonder weapons in time. This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes about how advanced and brilliant the nazis supposedly were. It’s history written by losers.

True! There needs to be logic, rhetoric and media training taught in schools, and media orgs should be removed from the control of wealthy individuals.

If 17 million dems just showed up out of nowhere to throw the vote, the GOP would just overturn the results.

You are suggesting that anti-Israel protesters should have spontaneously joined the Republican party en mass as a ploy to throw the primaries?

Damn, when you put it like that I guess it is their fault.

I think the Tankies have already made their minds up. The real people who won’t be voting Biden are some % people who saw the debate.

I’m not endorsing it ffs, I mean a bunch of people have gotten spooked by vaccines over covid.

I’m not surprised. The quality of education has been going downhill and there’s been a recent vaccine scare.