• JoYo@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    me when weed smokers are talking about magic mushroom “strains”.

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      5 months ago

      These are pretty different though, as cannabis has literally dozens of different cannabinoids and terpenes, but “magic mushrooms” refers to psilocybin shrooms, which all have psilocybin and psilocin in varying amounts.

      Cannabis relies on the entourage effect.

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          5 months ago

          Found the guy without experience of drug culture

          Name a drug and I’ve done it.

          Name two magic mushrooms without psilocybin.

          I can. Can you, even with googling?

          “Magic mushrooms” is exactly what refers to psilocybin, even more accurately than “ecstasy” refers to MDMA (a lot of pills have caffeine/mda/speed/rc’s).

          If you told someone you did shrooms, who the hell would even ask “oh you do mean like psilocybin mushrooms or amanitas or what?”

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              5 months ago

              Krokodil?

              Shitty homemade Russian desomorphine, I’ve had fentanyl.

              Ayahuasca?

              Ayahuasca is a brew in which you have a DMT-containing compound and a MAOi in order to get it through to your brain, so to speak. (That’s not how it works neurochemically but I’m lazy in writing rn so that’ll suffice.) Drinking Ayahuasca means the ROI (route-of-ingestion) is oral, meaning rather slow. It does last a long time, 10-12 hours, (context pending). The psychoactive element, DMT, is something I’ve smoked. That is a much faster ROI, and although the trip is shorter, it is way more intense, and the only way some people say a breakthrough dose is possible. Ayahuasa is milder and lasts longer, and is done in a setting in which there are professionals (not medical, but spiritual, ‘shamanical’, if that makes sense) and is more therapeutic. Smoking DMT is… a rather more intense, more psychedelic experience. Less than 10 seconds after my first hit… the walls started… “living in time”. I remember using those words, but as of this moment, I couldn’t explain exactly why. After the trip, I also said “I met God” and I know I just used it as shorthand, because I don’t believe in a singular deity whatsoever, but… it was just as clear to me as 2+2 at the time that I had sort of talked to the “consciousness of the universe” or however you might be able to even attempt to simplify it to a few words.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bvi8206lpA&ab_channel=ELVES https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8716686/

              There’s a few resources for anyone who found my that intriguing.

              Jenkem?

              Greatest memelording of the early 2000’s, not an actual drug, but other volatiles I could recommend are nitrous oxide and, among others, ether. (I’m also growing my own mescaline, and have been for the past ten years, not that it’s an inahalant of any sort, just the movie reminded me. It takes a while to grow mescaline cacti, so growing it doesn’t mean yielding it.)

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              5 months ago

              Interesting that a mycologist has 0 posts or comments regarding mushrooms/fungi prior to this post. Not that you have to, but rather that both of my mycologist friends are extremely enthusiastic about talking about it.

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              Avoiding the question while pretending to be an expert, cool, cool.

              Hey when people ask you “do you drink alcohol” do you answer them with “brodda wut? lol, no, only ethanol, why would you think ‘alcohol’ means ‘ethanol’ ‘alcohol’ actually means all alcohols and most of them aren’t suitable for human consumption”?

              I’m sure you don’t.

              Now, seeing how you’re an expert mycologist, please, do name two “magic mushrooms” which don’t contain any psilocin or psilocybin or any of the precursors. (Meaning shrooms in which the “magic” isn’t from psilocybin.)

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                  Weird how a “mycologist” can’t even discern between a family and a species.

                  Psilocybe cubensis and it’s variants are the one’s you farm at home, but they’re far from being the only psilocybe species that are ingested. One of the foremost being psilocybe semilanceatea (liberty caps) which is far more potent than any cubensis. There are dozens of species of psilocybe mushrooms, but like the name might suggest, they all contain psilocybin.

                  I specifically said name me two mushrooms which do not contain psilocybin and which rely on other psyhoactives, for my point is that rather like alcohol, with mushrooms, only really the dosage varies with variants, whereas with cannabis variants, the actual composition of the psyhoactive chemicals varies… greatly. (And for the pedants, mushrooms will have varying relative amounts of psilocin and psilocybin and relatives, but since psilocybin metabolises into psilocin, it’s nowhere near the same as with dozens of different cannabinoids + terpenes.)

                  I’ve cultivated shrooms several times. Have you? A rather noob’s guide you’ve linked if I might say. Almost as if it’s the first result someone Googling it might link.

                  “Mycologist” lmao, you’re a bad liar bruv.