Medo Halimy, a 19-year-old creator who documented personal, day-in-the-life vlogs from his “tent life,” died after an Israeli airstrike put him in a coma.
The article you linked claims 70% of the reported deaths have been identified. So even if “only” 25k out of 35k people are really dead, that’s still a shit fucking ton of people. How are you arguing about this and not feel the need to take a shower? It’s disgusting.
"Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 35,160 civilian casualties during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as of July 31, 2024. Of them, 23,640 people were reported to have been injured. "
That’s a lot fewer dead civilians in a lot more time. I know the situations aren’t the same but it’s still two countries invading another and killing people.
The difference here is that ukraine puts its military at the edge of cities in fortified defensive lines so the ukrainian military can shield ukrainian civilians from danger, where as palestine puts it’s military in bunkers hidden in the middle of cities so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.
Nice unbiased source you’ve got there… Care for an alternative version?
“Shortly after departing Kerem Shalom, initial reports indicate that four community members with experience in previous missions and engagement in community security with Move One came forward in a car and requested to take the place of the leading vehicle, citing concern that the route was unsafe and at risk of being looted,” it said.
“The four community members were neither vetted nor co-ordinated in advance, and Israeli authorities allege that the lead car was carrying numerous weapons,” it added. “However, the four individuals were not perceived by the convoy as a hostile threat.”
“The IDF had said on Thursday that a convoy of aid trucks from the American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera) organization entered the southern Rafah area with Israeli coordination. It said that during the drive, it identified a group of gunmen taking over a vehicle at the front of the convoy and beginning to lead it. The IDF described the act as a hijacking attempt.”
The difference here is that ukraine puts its military at the edge of cities in fortified defensive lines so the ukrainian military can shield ukrainian civilians from danger, where as palestine puts it’s military in bunkers hidden in the middle of cities so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.
Palestine does not have an army, Hamas are just a group of people together that lost their home, land, families and friends by massacres done by Israel Occupation Forces.
so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.
This claim always gets used but never do I see the opposite claim while that’s been proven. Israel uses Palestinian people as shields too, heck they even shot their own Israeli citizens death.
It is odd how you pick out one particular thing and base your entire argument on that but ignore the 14 links that I have given you. You also ignore the mere fact that a European country (Nazi Germany at the time) killed 6 million Jewish people purely out of hatred and that drove the people make Israeli state by Britain giving away land that wasn’t theirs to give away.
You seem to really, really try to put the entire blame on the Arabian people.
As I’m not at home right now, I can’t link sources and comment much but I will. If I think you’re worth my time because - you seem not really the type to debate but rather just wanting to point fingers to Arabian people.
EDIT: Copy-pasted my really old comment. It is done through Voyager app on phone, so let me know if it doesn’t copy well. Sometimes, I’m really curious if Israel supporters even know how the state they defend so passionately was created;
Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).
Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.
The founding father and first president of Palestine, Raj Amin Al-Huseni, was a member of the richest land owning family in palestine, a family who earned it’s wealth by being given the throne of jerusalem in a wedding present when the patriarch of the al-huseni clan, Husayn ibn Ali married the profit Muhammad’s daughter Fatima.
The profit Muhammad owned the throne of Jerusalem after migrating from the Arabian Penninsula and conquering it from the natives.
Oh, Raj is a title. It comes from the Sanskrit word ‘raja,’ which means ‘prince.’
Raj Amin Al-Huseni was an islamic royalist, and next in line to inherit the kingdom of jersuem to rule as a king.
The vast majority of land in current Israel was legally purchased from the Al-Huseni clan, who only sold it because it was a malaria infested swamp and they thought the jews would go there and die and then they could take the land back.
Source : The Rise and Fall of the Husaynis, 1840-1922 (part 1)
The founding father and first president of Palestine, Raj Amin Al-Huseni, was a member of the richest land owning family in palestine, a family who earned it’s wealth by being given the throne of jerusalem in a wedding present when the patriarch of the al-huseni clan, Husayn ibn Ali married the profit Muhammad’s daughter Fatima.
I’m not going to talk about religion because that’s not what this debate was about, like I said in another comment to you – You are trying to change the subject to religion and it is not about religion in our debate. It is about human lives and rights. Stop trying to change subjects/ topics and trying to confuse readers.
Anyway, do you even know who founded Israel? David Ben-Gurion. This particular person was one of the leader of the Jewish terrorist organization, Haganah, sanctioned the bombing of SS Patria (French ocean liner built in 1913), which killed 267 people and injured 172. Gurion become it’s first Israel’s prime minister and founder. I do recommend you to also look up about the other old Israeli Prime Ministers; Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.
I will stop responding and writing to you after this comment because it is clear as day that you are an Israel-supporter (perhaps Zionist?) and refuse to acknowledge any of Israel’s atrocities and trying to blame everything on the Arabian people (especially Palestinians). You refuse to acknowledge that because of Nazi-Germany in WW2, Brittian gave land away that was not theirs to give away and that Israel has done so many atrocities from 1948 up until now (ongoing). Anything that that does not fit your narrative gets dismissed as ‘’biased’’ while there are so many trustable sources from different countries.
EDIT: I wanted to add on this that you called all my sources “biased”. The source about the Ten Stages of Genocide is from “Holocaust Memorial Day Trust”. Just wanted to let you know that, do what you want with that particular knowledge.
I hope that, someday, you realize how wrong you are. I hope you don’t just shuffle away from your prior skewed views and act like you weren’t an abhorrent monster. I hope you own up to who you were and carry that shame with you to better yourself as a human being.
The genocidal apartheid state run propaganda ministry has claimed there is a 1 to 1 death ratio.
Obviously lies, considering the total dead are 72% women and children.
Hamas has admitted to counting all teenagers as children, even if they are 19 and members of hamas.
Source - Why the U.N. revised the numbers of women and children killed in Gaza,
https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-gaza-death-toll-women-children
The article you linked claims 70% of the reported deaths have been identified. So even if “only” 25k out of 35k people are really dead, that’s still a shit fucking ton of people. How are you arguing about this and not feel the need to take a shower? It’s disgusting.
"Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) verified a total of 35,160 civilian casualties during Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as of July 31, 2024. Of them, 23,640 people were reported to have been injured. "
That’s a lot fewer dead civilians in a lot more time. I know the situations aren’t the same but it’s still two countries invading another and killing people.
The difference here is that ukraine puts its military at the edge of cities in fortified defensive lines so the ukrainian military can shield ukrainian civilians from danger, where as palestine puts it’s military in bunkers hidden in the middle of cities so the palestinian civilians can shield the palestinian military from danger.
They also put their military among aid convoys and stuff, right? Super convenient.
Literally yes.
Source - US aid group admits Gaza convoy was taken over by unvetted people before IDF struck them
https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-aid-group-admits-gaza-convoy-taken-over-by-unvetted-people-before-idf-fired-at-them/
Nice unbiased source you’ve got there… Care for an alternative version?
“Shortly after departing Kerem Shalom, initial reports indicate that four community members with experience in previous missions and engagement in community security with Move One came forward in a car and requested to take the place of the leading vehicle, citing concern that the route was unsafe and at risk of being looted,” it said.
“The four community members were neither vetted nor co-ordinated in advance, and Israeli authorities allege that the lead car was carrying numerous weapons,” it added. “However, the four individuals were not perceived by the convoy as a hostile threat.”
“The IDF had said on Thursday that a convoy of aid trucks from the American Near East Refugee Aid (Anera) organization entered the southern Rafah area with Israeli coordination. It said that during the drive, it identified a group of gunmen taking over a vehicle at the front of the convoy and beginning to lead it. The IDF described the act as a hijacking attempt.”
I mean… dunno what to believe here… /s
Palestine does not have an army, Hamas are just a group of people together that lost their home, land, families and friends by massacres done by Israel Occupation Forces.
This claim always gets used but never do I see the opposite claim while that’s been proven. Israel uses Palestinian people as shields too, heck they even shot their own Israeli citizens death.
Also, Israel has done so many atrocities, it’s genuinely impossible to link them all here;
Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center.
Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention
Israel’s PM Netanyahu ‘proud’ of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state
Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings
Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression
Israeli politician: Palestinian prisoners should be allowed to be raped
Born Without Civil Rights; Israel’s Use of Draconian Military Orders to Repress Palestinians in the West Bank
Odd how every single incident you listed takes place after the 1929 Hebron massacre, when Arabs randomly killed jews for no reason.
It is odd how you pick out one particular thing and base your entire argument on that but ignore the 14 links that I have given you. You also ignore the mere fact that a European country (Nazi Germany at the time) killed 6 million Jewish people purely out of hatred and that drove the people make Israeli state by Britain giving away land that wasn’t theirs to give away.
You seem to really, really try to put the entire blame on the Arabian people.
As I’m not at home right now, I can’t link sources and comment much but I will. If I think you’re worth my time because - you seem not really the type to debate but rather just wanting to point fingers to Arabian people.
EDIT: Copy-pasted my really old comment. It is done through Voyager app on phone, so let me know if it doesn’t copy well. Sometimes, I’m really curious if Israel supporters even know how the state they defend so passionately was created;
The founding father and first president of Palestine, Raj Amin Al-Huseni, was a member of the richest land owning family in palestine, a family who earned it’s wealth by being given the throne of jerusalem in a wedding present when the patriarch of the al-huseni clan, Husayn ibn Ali married the profit Muhammad’s daughter Fatima.
The profit Muhammad owned the throne of Jerusalem after migrating from the Arabian Penninsula and conquering it from the natives.
Oh, Raj is a title. It comes from the Sanskrit word ‘raja,’ which means ‘prince.’
Raj Amin Al-Huseni was an islamic royalist, and next in line to inherit the kingdom of jersuem to rule as a king.
The vast majority of land in current Israel was legally purchased from the Al-Huseni clan, who only sold it because it was a malaria infested swamp and they thought the jews would go there and die and then they could take the land back.
Source : The Rise and Fall of the Husaynis, 1840-1922 (part 1)
https://www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/78111
I’m not going to talk about religion because that’s not what this debate was about, like I said in another comment to you – You are trying to change the subject to religion and it is not about religion in our debate. It is about human lives and rights. Stop trying to change subjects/ topics and trying to confuse readers.
Anyway, do you even know who founded Israel? David Ben-Gurion. This particular person was one of the leader of the Jewish terrorist organization, Haganah, sanctioned the bombing of SS Patria (French ocean liner built in 1913), which killed 267 people and injured 172. Gurion become it’s first Israel’s prime minister and founder. I do recommend you to also look up about the other old Israeli Prime Ministers; Menachem Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.
I will stop responding and writing to you after this comment because it is clear as day that you are an Israel-supporter (perhaps Zionist?) and refuse to acknowledge any of Israel’s atrocities and trying to blame everything on the Arabian people (especially Palestinians). You refuse to acknowledge that because of Nazi-Germany in WW2, Brittian gave land away that was not theirs to give away and that Israel has done so many atrocities from 1948 up until now (ongoing). Anything that that does not fit your narrative gets dismissed as ‘’biased’’ while there are so many trustable sources from different countries.
EDIT: I wanted to add on this that you called all my sources “biased”. The source about the Ten Stages of Genocide is from “Holocaust Memorial Day Trust”. Just wanted to let you know that, do what you want with that particular knowledge.
I hope that, someday, you realize how wrong you are. I hope you don’t just shuffle away from your prior skewed views and act like you weren’t an abhorrent monster. I hope you own up to who you were and carry that shame with you to better yourself as a human being.
Cheers.