People call 911 because they are having a medical issue, cops show up and shoot them and their dog, plus the neighbors dog for good measure. Shitheads actually attempt a coup, try to hang congress people, invade government offices, somehow only one of them gets shot. It makes 0 sense.
Makes a lot of sense if you understand that the police exist to support white supremacy and maga is a white supremacist organization.
YUP. The vast majority of our law enforcement system derives from slave patrols.
imagine the bloodbath that would have occurred if the crowds had been black / latino etc. or fuck, even college kids…
somehow only one of them got shot… SOMEHOW.
you know that’s a funny word when you look at it - some… how?
like some, a quantity… how, a state or condition… doing a heavy lift that.
it just doesn’t seem to encompass the obvious and outright institutionalized racism displayed that day. angry white people smeared shit inside the capitol and only a single one was shot, and that was it.
oh 4 years later we’re finally getting around to sentencing some of the shit-smear crowd. they should have been rounded up that evening and lived the rest of their lives breaking rocks in leavenworth federal pen on whatever hard labor the government could devise.
I used to think the same thing. How did only one person get shot? Why didn’t they shoot a few people outside of the Capitol and end the whole thing? As soon as a few people would have been shot, the vast majority of those insurrectionists would have ran, right? It’s basically what happened with Babbitt.
After watching a few documentaries, I think there were two reasons. One, the whole thing wasn’t a fluke. It didn’t happen by accident. People didn’t just get riled up. That whole thing was a legit planned and executed attempt by POTUS et al. to conduct a true insurrection while making it seem grassroots. The whole point was to let the crowd get as far as possible to intimidate the certification into caving to Trump. Because of this, they were ordered to not engage with lethal means. Two, they didn’t have the manpower because they were purposely handicapped. Had they opened fire, the wackos with legit firepower in the crowd would have fired back. This thing was a lot more violent than the news reported. There were situations in which officers went in knowing they might die. And in the moment, you don’t have the benefit of hindsight. This could have been a lot worse. The restraint they used was impressive. Now, I’m impressed with how well the Capitol Police handled that insurrection. I think there were officers there that day that history will hold as heroes.
Anyway, yeah, part of why it was so “compassionate” from the police was that the insurrectionists were White. But, they were ordered not to open fire by the same people that would benefit from the insurrection. And, they were handicapped and could have been overran had they opened fire. The fact that the police still prevented the insurrection is a testament to their professionalism and patriotism.
Or you know
Could it be that the most prestigious police job, where only the best of the best are taken, protecting the most important people in the country, working for the government who has enough money to spend on their training, actually has well-trained and well-controlled policemen?
Could it be that an institution that is notorious for how incredibly federalized (federalized = decentralized != with the federal government) it is doesn’t have the same quality everywhere?
they literally barricaded and fell back as far as they could.
watch the footage, so many times, cops put their hands on their sidearms, then fall back.
compare that to footage of occupy, of the atlanta cop city protests, any violent reactions on campuses etc., - is there a qualitative difference in them? maybe? but not enough to explain the disparity in violent, over-reaction.
The coup failed though so they clearly did something right with minimal loss of life
But hasn’t been prosecuted nearly severely enough. Max sentence I’ve seen is 4y with most of these traitors getting off with months instead.
It was an attempted coup. Sure it failed but the first Nazi coup also failed and they were let off easy then tried again successfully.
One dude got 22 years I know for a fact.
the first Nazi coup also failed
You’re talking about the Beer Hall Putsch, right?
As if she’s in heaven.
As if Heaven was a place.
Heaven is a half-pipe.
If I die before I wake…
At least in heaven I can skate.
'Cause right now on earth I can’t do jack
Without the man upon my back.
the most messed up thing is I read that line and instead of thinking of the oldschool kids’ prayer i start hearing Metallica playing in my head.
That was also implied.
Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens.
She died in battle, so discount Valhalla?
I don’t think you get into Valhalla with a folding knife. She’s probably in the Dick’s Sporting Goods in the sky.
The Medium Place.
She will always have her posthumous Darwin award though
posthumous Darwin award
Is there another kind?
Yep. All people need to do is remove themselves from the gene pool. Often that involves removing themselves from the count of the living, but some just sterilize themselves in some stupid way.
Darwin Awards
An “award” given to people who contribute the most to the evolution of humanity by removing their genes from the gene pool. Sometimes given to people who simply sterilize themselves, but most of the recipients have ended up dead because of their actions.
Basically, the concept is that people kill/injure themselves to the point where reproduction is no longer possible whilst doing something surrealistically stupid. By insuring that their stupid genes do not spread, they ultimately help humanity and thus recieve an award.
While the concept is funny enough, the actual awards are usually very mean spirited.
Since the award is for removing your ability to spread your genes, any self-inflicted stupid act that resulted in, eg castration, should be considered eligible.
Yes, but it’s almost exclusively awarded to men.
I thought a Darwin award meant specifically that the recipient died. So I’m not getting this, if it’s a joke or otherwise.
I think you can get it if you remove yourself from the gene pool. I think there were awards for men who accidentally castrated themselves before having children.
She was likely a victim of the maga extremism indoctrination and social media, this is a bit distasteful
suuure. she was the victim… the traitor killed while trying smash into the Capitol Building and overthrow the government…
/S
Every Nazi is a victim of extremism indoctrination. They don’t get a pass for that. She was a domestic enemy to the United States and died attacking our country. She deserves zero respect.
The world became a slightly better place when she died.
“Just following orders” is not an excuse no matter how it’s veiled.
She took part in a violent insurrection with the ultimate goal of overturning an election and destroying democracy.
She had every opportunity to no being a cesspool of bigotry, racism and fascist supporter. Instead she chose at every option to continue her path.
To be a victim of maga extremism, you must already be bigoted enough to think that it is a reasonable opinion to have to want black and LGBT people to die. She deserved what she got.
Wasn’t it more conspiracies about democracy being compromised?
idk how else to downplay supporting trump at this point.
public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people since polite conversation clearly doesn’t work once you put the red hat on. what alternatives do you suggest? 🙂
public shaming is the last line of defense we have against these types of people
Wait, really? I know liberals tend to like weird pseudo-pacifism, but have y’all really committed so hard to it that you think “public shaming” is our last line of defense?
Get armed, and get trained. You may end up needing it. *We* may end up needing it.
get armed and get trained? how will that convince a trump voter to reject his ideology? doesn’t make any sense to me tbh
Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted your usage of “last line of defense”?
These aren’t regular conservatives that we’re dealing with. MAGA is a fascist movement. The MO of fascists is to gain and hold power for their in-group by *any means necessary*. While it should never be our first option, we need to be willing and able to violently resist them, because they sure as hell don’t have any qualms about violently subjugating us.
Youre not going to convince a fascist not to be a fascist by making them feel bad about it. If that was possible, there’d be no communists.
Organising in your community, your workplace, and looking after yourself is what i think our friend was getting at
Fascists aren’t victims of the ideology they adopted, other people are. Good riddance to every dead fascist.
You’re so right, she obviously doesn’t deserve to be derided, we should show her love and support because she died, it wasn’t her fault she was indoctrinated like this.
For good measure, let’s posthumously pardon the Nazis that murdered hundreds or thousands of people and were later killed when their camps were taken. They were just victims of the Nazi extremism indoctrination and media, it’s a bit distasteful that people still slander them /s
Difference is she didn’t kill anybody that we know of
I think it’s fucking hilarious.
The sexualisation and humiliation of a person who cant object or consent is whats getting me.
people will excuse themselves of a lot when they don’t like someone.
I abaolutely do not care that she died, and her politics cant be handwaved away with ‘she was indoctrinated’, which would also equate to her having no agency. She knew what she was doing.
My favorite part was when Trump said nobody died on Jan 6..
Her death was so useless not even the guy she was supporting gave a shit about her.
What the hell makes you think that lady is in heaven? Assuming an even exists, I’m pretty sure her reservation got switched to a different establishment.
Could be one and not the other. Could be after you die you become a happy sentient green baby poo only to get wiped away. Could be good things after tho
Trump admitted he lost the election?
I was confused about this as well, but apparently in the past couple days he has said he lost a few times. Thanks to @jeffw@lemmy.world for posting this article:
This is most likely to try to deflect from him saying that he had every right to interfere with the election since he’s currently facing a criminal trial for interfering with the election.
That was actually the most recent interview. He said that after admitting to election interference.
Lmao @ “heaven”.
If there is a heaven I doubt she is looking down from it.
Oof ow my frontal cortex
I’m lost. Is Babbitt not the chick who cut her abusive husband’s dick off to great media attention in the 90s? (Weird AL put it in a song fucking legend). What does this have to do with Tonald Drump?
No Ashli Babbitt was the one person who was killed by police while attempting to overthrow the US Government on January 6th, 2021
Also fun fact: Conservative “Activist” group Judicial Watch filed a wrongful death lawsuit on her behalf earlier this year, which in my opinion spits in the face of all actual victims of police brutality.
You are thinking of Lorena Bobbitt.
That was my first thought too! This meme is about the dumbass who go herself shot during the failed Jan 6th coup.
Also the namesake of this cute lil fella Bobbit worm
That’s Bobbit (the dick remover)
You described Lorena Bobbitt more or less. Ashli Babbitt was a Jan 6 rioter (at the u.s. capitol) shot by police.
Fuck this timeline.
OK yes Lorena was who I was thinking.
If there is up or down then I’m sure she isn’t looking down.
The thing about Ashlu Babbitt is that nothing of value was lost
I think you’re overlooking the potential.
I don’t give up on anybody because they all have the potential to have their Ebenezer Scrooge moment and change until they no longer have any moments.
The potential for Ashlii Babbitt to become a good and upstanding contributing member of society was lost because of her blind following of the orange turd.
That is her fault. It’s still a sad thing.
I feel bad for her but I feel worse for the person who felt like they had no other choice but to shoot that woman, and I am glad that it only took one bullet to stop the insurrection.
This guy famously just provides reputation rehab for KKK members.
He doesn’t talk Klansmen out of their hateful ways. He absolves them on behalf of Black people so they can pretend to be reformed and get jobs again. He’s doing them a service, and they frequently pay him for it.
It’s like the real life version of the “With Apologies to Jesse Jackson” episode of South Park, where Randy says the N-word on TV, and expects the world to forgive him after he literally kisses Jesse Jackson’s ass as an apology. (Spoiler: this doesn’t work)
I’m not a fan of letting fascists take off their uniforms and return to normal life like they didn’t do anything. I’m more of an Inglorious Basterds kinda guy…
Interesting, this is the first I’ve heard of the “reputation rehab” angle on the guy. Do you have any further reading you could link me to?
Rather than going full Inglorious Basterds, I think it’s important to have both “carrot” and “stick” options for these people. It doesn’t really do us any good if there’s no way to come back from having been involved in hate groups. Just make sure to keep the Richard Spencer treatment available, to provide them some motivation to get their heads right.
