This post was getting attention.

Then this exchange by the mod

I tried to post and well well well, post was locked. https://lemmy.world/modlog

  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
    21·
    23 hours ago

    Do you believe me now?

    OK, I believe you that a low effort post to promote commercial media outlet heise baited enough people to hit the upvote button. As I wrote in another comment: If another of the mods over there thinks that my decision was wrong, I will not stand in the way when they restore that post. That said, so far nobody of them said anything to me regarding that.

    I gave the author plenty of time to explain why that post isn’t commercial promotion. I didn’t remove it right away. He wasn’t convincing and at some point demanded I consult him. People interested in that post can still look it up on Mastodon. It’s not like it’s actually gone or anything.

    • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
      3·
      23 hours ago

      Well I don’t know that guy. But seems to me he is a tech journalist. And as such probably dabbling with all kinds of things and curious. And heise frequently reports on Free and Open Source Software and the Fediverse. So naturally, they’re taking part in it. Or they’d be bad journalists. I also read your interaction. He wasn’t demaning you consult him. He was super snarky.

      Yeah, I think you’re wrong. There wasn’t any advertising or links in that post. Just what Mastodon adds to a post and a picture. And naturally those link to a user’s home instance. It’s the same with your profile. That’s also on a certain instance and has that domain name everywhere. Still that’s not an ad for lemmy.world.

      I think it’s bad publicity for us. We have too much drama here, and it shows. I suppose Mastodon isn’t perfect either… I don’t really know, I do not use it.

      I’d have left that post stay up. It’s nice to celebrate the Fediverse. And despite possible shortcomings of that post, I do not see any ill intent. And linking to heise isn’t unheard of… In fact we link to their articles every other day in the German speaking part of the Lemmyverse…

      But I’m not a moderator. It’s your decision what to make of this, not mine. I mainly wanted to make sure we agree on the facts. And seems we mostly do.

      Edit: And I think this call to upvote the post is a misunderstanding. Boosts, Upvotes and likes work differently on Mastodon and Lemmy, as far as I know. I think that wasn’t meant as a call to do the Lemmy upvote thing. But to press that button on Mastodon that makes that post spread to your friends. I believe this is a misunderstanding between you and that person, due to the terminology.

      I also think that post looked off, especially with all the hashtags. But honestly, most Mastodon posts look off to me. And they also speak in a different tone over there. At least that’s my experience.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.world
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        22 hours ago

        And naturally those link to a user’s home instance.

        But it’s not his personal home instance. It’s his corporate home instance. He wrote that he used his corporate account because it has wider reach but it really is just a free time hobby thingie, pinkie swear. Sure, he could have published the post from his actual private account and then just boosted it from his corporate one but then that fine promotional domain name of his employer wouldn’t be visible to everyone.

        My personal conviction still is that I made the right call but as I also have said: If one of the other mods disagrees, they can just restore that post and there will be not a single letter of complaint by me. There are 5 mods overall.

        And linking to heise isn’t unheard of… In fact we link to their articles every other day in the German speaking part of the Lemmyverse…

        And when there’s an actual Fedi-related article to link to and not just a low effort assortments of hashtags with a cartoon rocket, I’m happy to leave it up.

        This post from a day before is much better: https://lemmy.world/post/24151008 Still those hashtags but at least actual content by posting a tutorial.

        • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          13 hours ago

          There are 5 mods overall.

          Ruud is the main admin and has bigger fish to try. Xylinna hasn’t been active in a year. MrCenny hasn’t been active in 8 months.

        • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
          3·
          22 hours ago

          Idk. I’ve also used company email or storage to do one-off private stuff. If allowed. It gets yet more complicated once you’re a freelancer. Or do social media stuff or programming and it’s both your hobby and your job. I can somehow relate to that. We don’t know that person’s exact situation and reasoning. All we can do here is speculate and either give them the benefit of the doubt, or not.

          And ultimately I think companies have a right to exist, too. I like that they write articles for me to read. I invite journalists over to have a look at the nice projects I’m doing. I don’t see a big issue with that. Of course they’re very different from me. All their professional life revolves around reach, publicity and attention. That’s probably some big category in their thinking and less so in mine.

          Yeah, the post wasn’t particularly great quality. More an experiment. I mean the atmosphere in the comments was good. I’ve seen worse.

          Idk. Let’s stop talking about this. It’s getting late here and I think we could go on forever about some details. Things happen and I think not everything is worth writing a novel about. And ultimately none of that is my call. I wish you the best.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
            2·
            12 hours ago

            For transparency reasons: I’ve DMed @tragicnotcute@lemmy.world (As suggested in the earlier conversation… To have another mod look at it.)

            I think the other mods in !fediverse@lemmy.world are more nominal members. I can’t see any activity from them. It’s mainly @woelkchen@lemmy.world doing all the work there. Ruud is the instance admin and probably the last person we want to bother with small drama, and the other two don’t have any activity federated to me for months.

            (And maybe you want to contact the inactive mods in your community and see if you want to replace them.)